Growth Leader Market Leader Week 10 in review

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Real Estate Agent with Charles Rutenberg Rlty- More than 5,000 agents(813) 777-1196 SL3130026
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This week there were 0 new leads for the whole week.   I did have a  prospect that I was communicating with, that emailed me and thanked me for my help and asked me about a few homes, we emailed back a few times. She told me she wasn't sure how it all worked, and what the "rules" were for Realtors.

So I advised her if she already had an agent, that they should continue with that agent, unless there was a good reason not to.  She stated that she was just trying to 'help her son' and found my website, appreciated my help, but just didn't know the rules.

I politely disengaged the conversation.    If this were MY client, I would want another Realtor to give me the same respect.   Karma, is all I can say.

Let's see what week 11 bring me....

Katrina Madewell


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Hello There

I get so many phone calls and emails on a weekly basis about this product. Let me tell you how you found this post :)

I was an early Active Rain Blogger, and got to know many people within the active rain community, and was asked to do a 'test pilot' for market leader. They gave me a market leader / growth leader account and my obligation was to write a regular blog post on the product weekly. Good bad or indifferent. Being said that, I was probably chosen to do so because I know how to write a Blog Post for SEO, so they wanted their stuff to be found, and it is. Thats why you landed here. THe other part that is missing is they do not have anyone to manage that aspect of the social media blogsphere. Only people trying to see it at rain camps.

This Original post is from 04/06/2009 10:13 PM

My experience with Market Leader is this. I received a fair amount of traffic from the site, and I talked to others that were test piloting and they did too. Some had amazing success with the system (its a well put together backend lead management system). The only problem for me was that I already built a business that was very different than the online platform they had given me. I did receive some leads, the quality of most of the leads were OK, there was no loyaly with the online people you had met in person because they came as a web lead and not referred.

On another note, I did receive a few other leads that I had a great connection with and they closed.

So you want to know what I think about market leader, its not for me, because I already had a different foundation in place. I hope this help you :)

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Katrina Madewell
Tampa FL Homes for sale | Tampa Bay - (813) 777-1196
Charles Rutenberg Rlty- More than 5,000 agents(813) 777-1196

Hello There

I get so many phone calls and emails on a weekly basis about this product.   Let me tell you how you found this post :)

I was an early Active Rain Blogger, and got to know many people within the active rain community, and was asked to do a 'test pilot' for market leader.   They gave me a market leader / growth leader account and my obligation was to write a regular blog post on the product weekly.  Good bad or indifferent.  Being said that, I was probably chosen to do so because I know how to write a Blog Post for SEO, so they wanted their stuff to be found, and it isThats why you landed here.   THe other part that is missing is they do not have anyone to manage that aspect of the social media blogsphere.  Only people trying to see it at rain camps.

This Original post is from 04/06/2009 10:13 PM

My experience with Market Leader is this.   I received a fair amount of traffic from the site, and I talked to others that were test piloting and they did too.   Some had amazing success with the system (its a well put together backend lead management system).  The only problem for me was that I already built a business that was very different than the online platform they had given me.  I did receive some leads, the quality of most of the leads were OK, there was no loyaly with the online people you had met in person because they came as a web lead and not referred.

On another note, I did receive a few other leads that I had a great connection with and they closed.

So you want to know what I think about market leader, its not for me, because I already had a different foundation in place.  I hope this help you :)

Blog Post Updated 11/23/2011

November 23, 2011 10:25 AM
Rainmaker
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James Sanson - Ranked in the TOP 1% of Arizona
Homes for sale in Maricopa AZ
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It is funny Market Leader Owns ActiveRain. I see so much bagging on it, but we all are in short blogging on it.  I have not used the program, but I think the database side looks nice. I would do one thing to improve it. Notify me when people are doing things on it, so I do not have to live on it. Tell based on some formula a prospect is hot. Let me go do my other work while these eggs get ready to hatch. Also, include a drip system that sends out value adding emails to appear they are from me. Their next boom realestate.com will go bust based on how it is being designed too. 

December 12, 2011 02:21 AM
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Sadie Berger

I was recently hounded by Market Leader to sign up also, and since I was a hard sell, the hounder offered me a couple of Users that I could talk to directly to get their side of the story.  When i contacted the users, they were selling the product more strongly than did the Market Leader guy.. Telling me all about how man tons and tons of leads they get and even another 20 or 30 per month from the site using their own tactics.. One guy had 20,000 hits per day on his Market Leader site and had averaged 20 leads from Mkt Ldr each month and another 20 from craigs list.  Only problem is when I looked at his stats it said the following.

Date created: August 2012

PR0

Google indexed: 200

alexa traffic: 22,123,432

keyword spy has not yet heard of him... Meaning he has been on the PPC system less than a month.

Wow... doing 40 leads a month for 12 months when the site did not exist 3 months ago.

Wow.. A whopping 200 pages indexed.... you can index that many in 24 hours. Any real estate site with an idx that is any good will index 20,000 pages in 90 days... without much work at all.. just add a site map.

Hell I get an alexa score of 12,325,432 that is 12 million and I have less than 200 visitors a month.. My lord anyone with 20,000 hits a day would be in the less than a millon range..

I know PR is not the greatest thing in the world but if I had a  pr0 after a year I might as well quit.

So bottom line has anyone experienced this.... even setting up realtors to back up their story.. My guess is tne Mkt ldr guy gets a thousand for selling the 6 month package and the lying realtor gets 500 bucks just for ripping me off.  so if anyone has experienced this, please chime in... since someone doing this is the slimeyest of all agents and his license needs to be pulled.  I wonder if his broker knows that he is doing such a slimy thing and they are using the name of the brokers company as a back drop.

There is no way in hell this realtor could be doing anything like he says other than making 500 bucks.

Actually he may not even be selling real estate just working with Market Leader... Hell 30 minutes conversation for 500 bucks... that is a thousand dollars and hour how many of us realtors make that kind of dough... Maybe I will see if Mkt Ldr has any opening for Agent Back Drops....

 

 

 

October 20, 2012 06:05 PM
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JAZ COOK
Jaz Cook & Associates
Realty Source Inc. San Diego California

Just found this blog Feb 2013. I am surprised there are not more comments about Market Leader Real estate lead generation tools from Real estate Professionals nationwide.

I was being hounded by Market leader Lead generation sales department for months, finally I gave in and signed a six month contract. $280 per month for 10 leads.. under $300 for sure. This was 2-3 years back. Most of the leads were bogus, wrong phone numbers, weird email address and names that could not be traced on any social media sites. Funny at the end of the month all kinds of leads pour in they really push to make up the quota. I did however had one good lead that closed, this lead came in first week just after I signed up. So I switched to another zip code close to $1600 per month. Around $90 per lead. Yes, it is a very expensive area!
 
What a mistake that was, pure crap! Frustrated, I cancelled my account before the 6 months with great difficulty from their accounting dept. They want you to stay till the end of the contract to see positive results.
 
They DO NOT GUARANTEE GOOD LEADS, LEGIT EMAIL ADDRESS OR PHONE # You pay for every lead regardless. There is no compensation what so ever even if ALL your leads are total CRAP!

If this company was that good why do they make agents sign a six month contract? I don't understand. Some of these leads didn't make sense at all, who are these people? Really! Are they for real? I was questioning myself. If someone is searching for a home online they would leave their proper email address NOT - Name Fred Flintstone (Fred Flintstone @ yahoo. ) ( 123 234 4567 ). Name Dddd Dddddd phone (3313335566) these are just few, many more like these. Seriously! Market Leader said Consumers do not want to be contacted by a realtor at this early stage while they are searching, that is why clients online leave false email and phone numbers!!! They want to search for homes first, when they are ready they will contact. Ummm!

Matt Pruzan from Market Leader response- "agents that are successful with Market Leader program are qualified agents, they take weekly training classes and have great success and engage with their leads" !!!!!!!!!!! LOL! How do you engage with leads when more than 90% of them leave funny and weird email addresses and most don't leave their phone number and few that do leave the ph no ----are wrong numbers. It is a joke. You cant trace Leads name phone no or email address anywhere on the Internet! Boggles my mind!
 
In my humble opinion "Real leads leave their email address phone number and real name. They appreciate when someone calls them by email and phone and they respond positivity"
 
 
Late 2012 I gave in again to a smooth talking sales person Kelly Murphy was my rep, Cant blame him, he is doing what he needs to do, its a job, he said he believes in the system. Signed up another 6 month contract. I know I know, what everyone is probably thinking, didn't you learn after the first time ???? Why would you sign up again? Answer to that "Weak moment" :) they had a special, 20 Leads for about $800 per month. Ummm double the leads more chances, haha! BIG MISTAKE! Worse than before.
 
After 40 BOGUS leads I canceled my credit card. $1600+ out the window. Market Leader kept sending the Bogus leads for the 3rd month even though I had cancelled. Doesn't make sense, why would you send leads when the credit card has already been cancelled. . They claim I owe them the last payment after the cancellation of my card they were not kidding.
 
Asked for a Full refund for Crappy leads or a credit towards a basic website for $149 per month, Matt Pruzen response "you still owe us the last month, unless you pay the balance we cannot assign you the basic website, I don't think we are a good fit for each other, we provided you 60-63 leads and cut our losses. Cut your losses? haha! We don't guarantee anyone anything, we do not guarantee a transaction!
 
Market Leader is a Big Scam, in my opinion, Market Leader is a Ripoff ! market leader customer service and support Stinks. It is not about YOU, It is how much money can we get from agents. You will not get anywhere if you are trying to get a refund for Bogus leads or any Credit. Beware of Market Leader do your research before you sign up. Real Estate agents are so vulnerable, to all these lead generating companies, speaking for myself, .
 
Referrals from past clients are the best, love referrals!!! Networking in your community is another great place, post cards, invest in your own website with google adwords, so many options!
 
Who said Real estate is an easy Job!
 
 
February 18, 2013 01:03 PM
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Savannah Murphy
I had no idea Market Leader Owned Active Rain. This has been one of the worst experiences in my career. I love my salesperson, Robert, but this weekend was the clincher. I actually had a person that left her phone number say she was going to report me to the real estate board for stalking and that she would make sure to get in touch with my real estate company. This is actually hurting my reputation. Every lead I have had I followed up on IMMEDIATELY. I federal Expressed the package immediately and then followed up again. Each and EVERY time the person says, how did you get my information, I did not ask for this....etc. etc. etc. I would strongly encourage you all out there to make another decision on internet lead services above Market Leader. This is truly painful.
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