Rep. Joe Wilson yells out at President Obama - "You Lie!"

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Rep. Joe Wilson yells out at President Obama "You Lie!"

"During President Obama's major health care speech on Wednesday, South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson (R) yelled out "You lie!" when the President said the legislation would not mandate coverage for undocumented immigrants" - Associated Press.

Republican Congressman Joe Wilson's outburst was "totally disrespectful .... and he should apologize immediately," said Sen. John McCain in a CNN interview shortly after the President finished his speech.

I believe this behavior is an embarrassment to his office and unacceptable from a member of Congress. Not only did Wilson show disrespect for the President, but he showed his contempt for all the members of Congress as well as the American Public.

Regardless of one's political affiliations, it is not too much to expect that an elected official act with appropriate decorum and civility.

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Rainer
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Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

Who is Tana Hunt? Why is she anonymous. Where are you from?

September 10, 2009 03:57 PM #32
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Bonnie Vaughan
Re/Max Home Team - Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Tana, It's a no win with this bunch.  Scott is about to accuse you of being a lobbyist for the insurance industry - the way he accuses me.

September 10, 2009 04:08 PM #34
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
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Scott - In earlier comments Tana indicated she was with "Trinity Title of Texas".

However, she deleted this from her name when she realized what a bad reflection her behavior was on the company she works for.

 

September 10, 2009 04:27 PM #36
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Bonnie Vaughan
Re/Max Home Team - Scranton, PA
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I'm still confused when Scott said "

 

This loser is the darling of the healthcare industr, having raked in over $240,000 in campaign contributions. 

 It seems that Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D) received between 2007 and 2008 1.5 million in contributions from the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical companies. Aren't they in the health care industry? 

Max Baucus is the same Senator who floated the most recent health care initiative on Tuesday. Source Washington Post.

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/20/AR2009072003363.html

September 10, 2009 04:28 PM #37
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John Secor
EXIT Real Estate Results - Winter Springs, FL

Tana - Wilson called your president a liar as the president was telling the country that illegal immigrants are not covered under any plan and you applaud him for it right?  Here is the section of HB3200 that specifically addresses the issue for your perusal:

 SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. 

 Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments

 for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are

 not lawfully present in the United States.

Is that clear enough?  Feel free to look it up yourself if you don't believe me, its on page 143 near the top.  Now, either Wilson is himself a liar or he is ignorant or, more likely, he is typical of too many in the GOP willing to repeat the distortions, half truths and out right lies the whacked out fringe element keep dreaming up. 

September 10, 2009 04:37 PM #39
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Bonnie Vaughan
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"Perhaps the reforms that President Obama advocates would not cover illegal
aliens, but those are not the reforms currently under consideration by
Congress," commented Dan Stein, president of FAIR. "H.R. 3200, the legislation
that the House will be voting on, would allow illegal aliens to benefit from
the government-financed public option, and includes no verification provisions
to prevent illegal aliens from receiving taxpayer subsidies to purchase
private health insurance."

President Obama's assertion that illegal alien would not be covered under
AAHCA is directly contradicted by an August 25 report, Treatment of
Noncitizens in H.R. 3200, issued by the Congressional Research Service. The
nonpartisan research arm of Congress concluded, "H.R. 3200 does not contain
any restrictions on noncitizens - whether legally or illegal present, or in
the United States temporarily or permanently - participating in the [Health
Insurance] Exchange."
 

Source Reuters 42 mins ago

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS201604+10-Sep-2009+PRN20090910

September 10, 2009 04:45 PM #41
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Bonnie Vaughan
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Tara, It's impossible to get them to take off the rose colored glasses.  They elected him and come hell or high water they are goin' Stand By Their Man".

Joe Wilson will be on TV tonight outlining exactly why the Presidents statements were untruthful.

September 10, 2009 05:55 PM #43
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Elizabeth Bolton
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Hi Stewart ~ Not to mention Cantor texting on his phone - that was disgusting.  Inappropriate in an office meeting never mind a joint session of Congress with the President at the podium.

Right on to Russel's and Jim's comments.  I'm appalled at the outcry about the idea of providing health care to undocumented immigrants.  It's disgusting and makes me ashamed of the people in this country.  We're happy to have them do our dirty work and yet what - you want them - or their children - turned away from the hospital? That horrifies me - the thought of it and the type of person who would suggest that it is a human way to act.  Besides if money were your sole focus - it is certainly not mine - as some have pointed out it would probably cost less to provide care through health coverage as opposed to emergency room coverage as is currently the case.

Liz

 

September 10, 2009 08:02 PM #44
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
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There are two points to examine in this post of mine:

1. Whether Joe Wilson's behavior and lack of decorum by a United States Congressman is acceptable;

2. Whether the outburst was factual, or simply Republican misinformation.

Wilson's boorish behavior is unquestionably inappropriate for someone of his stature. Yet some Republicans condone and encourage it (see comment #9 above). Is this the type of example lawmakers should be setting for the country?

House rules expressly prohibit lawmakers from calling the president a "liar" or accusing him of "lying".

 In these circumstances Wilson's outburst requires that he be censured.

I hope that Nancy Pelosi (who I believe is not a worthy Speaker of the House) has the correct judgment to ensure Wilson is disciplined.

September 10, 2009 08:37 PM #45
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Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

Bonnie: Lobbyist for the insurance industry.

September 10, 2009 08:59 PM #46
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Kevin Robinson
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I am a conservative. I believe Joe Wilson was out of line. When someone is speaking they should be given courtesy and respect. It does not matter who it is. We have all seen the video of Hillary yawning and not paying attention to President Bush. We have all seen people on both sides act as if they could care less.  Atrocious behavior for our supposed leaders. I do not like it out of anyone.

September 11, 2009 10:09 AM #47
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Bonnie Vaughan
Re/Max Home Team - Scranton, PA
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Scott, you must be correct!

I'm making those big bucks running up and down the halls of Capital Hill.  That's why I'm a Realtor.

September 11, 2009 10:22 AM #48
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Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

Drudge has a donation button for Wilson * I'm sending $$$.  He made a comment in the heat of the LIES about health care to be provided for ILLEGAL immigrants * good for him!!!  I hope he gets the $$$ he needs and returns to congress......Having been born in SC, we have a saying.....Save your Confederate Money, Honey! The SOUTH will Rise Again!!!

America is RIGHT of CENTER.....

When will Nancy Pelosi take Chairmanship from TAX CHEAT Charlie Rangle?

September 11, 2009 12:20 PM #49
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John Secor
EXIT Real Estate Results - Winter Springs, FL

Wallace - OMG-WTF!  Stars and Bars bro!

September 11, 2009 01:07 PM #50
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
Windermere Real Estate - Palm Springs - Palm Springs, CA
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All concerned citizens can donate to Rob Miller - the candidate to replace Joe Wilson in 2010.

September 11, 2009 05:47 PM #51
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Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

Wallace: LOL. You are funny. This country is certainly NOT right of center. Keep dreaming.

September 11, 2009 05:04 PM #52
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Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
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Scott * country is right of center and polls agree * we'll see in Nov when Repubs take back VA and NJ governor slots!!!  Going to Repub b'fast tomorrow AM and hear Repub candidate's wife speak....

September 11, 2009 05:18 PM #53
Rainmaker
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Franklin & Brentwood, TN Homes Mike Nastri - Rodney Kennedy
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It matters to us as much as it matters to you.

Sorry anybody feels it is okay to be so disrespectful to anybody let alone the President regardless of who he is.  Joe's apology and subsequent national news guest spots for fund raising demonstrate the dis-ingenuousness of his words.  Joe Wilson is in fact the liar, apologizing and not meaning it.

There is a rash of disrespect towards this president that goes well beyond politics.  And Tanya, if you follow logically the idea of illegals paid health care in the form of "affordability" tax credits, they would first have to file their taxes.  Do you envision a lot of illegals standing in line for their tax returns?

September 12, 2009 12:23 AM #54
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Bonnie Vaughan
Re/Max Home Team - Scranton, PA
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Mike,  George Bush was booed loudly by Dems in 2005, during his State of the Union address. Hard to decipher what individuals might have been saying over the boos.

JOHN ROBERTS (CBS White House correspondent): At a couple points in this address, it looked more like the British Parliament than the United States Congress. I've never heard the minority party shout at the president during the State of the Union address.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200502040014

Not a simple audible dissent.  Masses of Dems shouting and jeering the President of the United States.

One dissenting blurted out comment is one thing.  Masses of Democrats shouting and booing a President is something else.

It was an inappropriate time and place for Wilson's remark.  He apologized for the outburst - not his conviction. How many Dems apologized to George Bush?

 

September 12, 2009 09:05 AM #55
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
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Bonnie - The real apology this country deserves needs to come from George Bush.

September 14, 2009 01:14 PM #56
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