YOU CANNOT "REPRINT" ON ACTIVE RAIN. IT IS COPYRGHT INFRINGEMENT

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

RANDOM THOUGHTS ABOUT COPYRIGHT, INFRINGEMENT, ACTIVE RAIN POSTS, ATTRIBUTION, LINKS AND SNIPPETS.   

It appears that a RAINER got a post deleted because 99% of the post was not written by the member. 

This is a gray area to many, but copyright is really simple.  The creator or writer of an article is the ONLY person who has the right to any benefit derived from publication or distribution of an article, movie or book.  Unless you have purchased and paid for the right to publish or distribute content written by someone else, you do not have permission to publish that material as content on your web site or blog post. 

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???   AN ACTIVE RAIN POST GIVES BENEFITS.  THE BENEFITS GO TO THE ACTIVE RAIN MEMBER THAT PUBLISHED THE CONTENT ON THEIR BLOG. 

IF YOU WROTE THE ARTICLE, you are the author and own the copyright on that content.  You can print and distribute AND you can PUBLISH the content. 

IF YOU DIDN'T WRITE THE ARTICLE, you do not own the content and cannot publish it - EVEN WITH ATTRIBUTION.

If you ask an author for permission to "REPRINT" and receive that permission, you may PRINT the article and distribute, perhaps in mailings or hand-outs in a relocation package.  The author's name will be on the article.  You are merely distributing the article and will benefit only by the limited number of copies distributed.  the author benefits by having their writing distributed. 

PERMISSION TO REPRINT IS NOT PERMISSION TO PUBLISH

By publishing an article written by someone else, you used the writing of another as bait to YOUR web site because there is a link on your post to your profile which has a link to your web site.  This may not have been intended, but the benefit is real.  Content is content and you can't use content created/written by another for your own benefit.  The synergy of the Internet is complicated, but ANY content contains keywords, keyword phrases and they are SEARCH ENGINE BAIT.  Content on Active Rain that is published also has a link back to the blogger's profile and the profile may have a link to the blogger's web site or sites. 

LINKS FROM AN ACTIVE RAIN POST HAVE INTERNET SYNERGY

 

Internet LinksThe original Active Rain post links to your Active Rain Profile

Your Active Rain Profile links to any "LINKS" you have added to your profile. 

Your Active Rain post links to any outgoing links to web page(s) you include in the post. 

Your web sites offer your services to the public and include your e-mail, contact information, name, affiliations.

Web links or blogrolls link to other pages on the Internet.

 

 

USE SNIPPETS AND LINK - THAT'S "FAIR USE"

The proper way to get the information to the reader would have been to publish an "introduction" or "snippet", three or four lines of the original material and then LINK to the article on the author's web site.  The "Fair Use" exclusion under copyright law was intended for reviewers of original material, critics of books, movies, etc. to use "SNIPPETS"or short excerpts of original material and then publish the review of the original, not the original.  When one publishes an entire article, they have violated the copyright of the author, even if you give attribution and include the author's name in the article.

Use Snippets and then LINK.  LINKS make the Internet go round and round. 

We don't even have to get into duplicate content.  That's another post. 

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Thanks for commenting Lisa. 

You are right on the money.  Facts can be found anywhere, but ideas when committed to writing, should be original. 

Jun 22, 2007 04:27 PM #99
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Artur Urbanski
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Hi Lenn, I just publish a "rant" on plagiarism (it was triggered by a, very blatant, plagiarism. I brought it to the attention of AR and they took care of it). In the process of proving it, I did some research on plagiarism, and (as it was quick) I missed your excellent post.  Here is my post,

Let’s say NO to Plagiarism on Active Rain.

I would appreciate if you could comment on it. Do you think that it would make sense to create a "plagiarism oversight" group on AR? I asked for this post to be featured, but, I was told that there is recently a post on the subject – I am assuming yours. Do you think that my post is relevant and complementary to what you said? Please let me know.

Also, I would like to ask you a question regarding your post. Are you saying that posting link to someone's public post on Internet is plagiarism? I think that intellectual property, once publicized is in public domain. It cannot be copied, but it can be referred to and of course requires proper citation, etc. I would appreciate your comment.

 

Jun 28, 2007 04:25 PM #100
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Ana Molina

WOW!! Lots of information for a new Active Rain member.  I think this should be a requirement for all new members to read.  Thank you for the lesson!!

Jul 26, 2007 11:34 AM #101
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Ann Guy
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Lenn - You know your stuff.  Now I understand Carnac! Carnac! Carnac! Thanks for the info, I think you have a lot of knowledge and we can all benefit from it 
Jul 30, 2007 10:44 AM #102
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Lenn...

I think it's fantastic that this particular post is in the emailed AR Newsletter. It needs to be. As the numbers grow what you have to say can't be said enough :)

TLW...ROAR!

Jun 18, 2008 01:53 PM #103
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Paul Silver
Focus Professionals, Inc. Rhode Island Real Estate - Newport, RI
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Hey, what is with this ranking thing... I am unaware of how I can "rate" posts...

This one, if I knew how, would get a high score though...

Another fine post from Lenn Harley...

Jun 18, 2008 02:01 PM #104
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Great post - I think this is something the newer members do not realize.   All copying is illegal, but if you are going to copy, at least tell us where the darn article came from!   THanks for the info on the snippets, glad to hear it's legal to lead into another article.

Jun 18, 2008 02:07 PM #105
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Benjamin Clark
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Snippets are the way to go. After all, you want people who read your blog to know what YOU think about a topic, not to read what someone else thinks. Snip and link. Comment. Write your own take on the topic. Cut and paste doesn't help you, the person who originally wrote the article, or potential prospects.

Jun 18, 2008 02:36 PM #106
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Lenn:  WOW!  This is a HOT topic, isn't it?!  I've started copyrighting my work b/c there was someone using my articles and posting it as theirs!  I didn't create a stink at all about it but, I was pretty upset b/c it takes me quite awhile to write one and to use mine and re-title it really urks me. 

I have no idea what was going on that someone's post was deleted--missed that one but, thanks for sharing the rules--I'm glad it was featured so that hopefully you'll have a LARGE readership!

Debe in Charlotte

Jun 18, 2008 03:02 PM #107
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Kathy McGraw

I'm not signed in, but did want to say that as I am reading more and more blogs, I know just today I have seen some pretty obvious cut and paste.....and apparently it will be an ongoing issue.  Thanks once again for the lesson.

Jun 18, 2008 03:23 PM #108
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Cesar Martinez

I totally agree with Lenn's thought about people that copy/paste or steal other people thoughts. In my case I post a blog or let's say a paste to my blog an email sent by our FAMB President to all Florida Mortgage Brokers not with any intention of  getting any points or steal somebody else words or thoughts but to bring to the AR Realtor community our FAMB President point of view about such a complicated market and situation that we are living nowadays. And here a comment I just got:

There's a new comment on the blog entry D. Ritch Workman, FAMB President's Message

Comment:

Thank you for posting this.  Ritch is my brother and I am very proud of the work he has done for all of us in this industry.  Did you know he is running for the Florida House?  His website is www.RitchWorkman.com.  Again, thanks for getting the word out.

Please follow this link to respond: http://activerain.com/blogsview/492388/D-Ritch-Workman-FAMB

Jun 18, 2008 04:16 PM #109
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Cindy Greenwald

Thanks for all the great info. I am completely new to the whole "blogging" thing. Truthfully I don't really know where to begin. I know many other RE agents have found them useful in driving traffic to their website. I'm still investigating exactly how that works.  I appreciate the tutorial, very much.

Jun 18, 2008 04:19 PM #110
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Thanks, Lenn. I didn't read all the comments above but agree. It seems to me there's some outright plaigiarism all in the interest of accumulating points. Shame on those who do that. The good news is we don't tend to read those blogs anyway; rather we would hope to be entertained with insightful opinions, hopefully about real estate which is the craft we're in! Take care.

 

Paul

Jun 18, 2008 05:51 PM #111
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sherri Winton

You have great info here. Did not know these things. With blogging becoming more and more, it is very good FYI.

Jun 18, 2008 05:54 PM #112
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Joyce Godwin

Len, thanks for the info.  Seems like good content for MCE!

Jun 18, 2008 06:16 PM #113
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DeAndrea "Dee Dee" Jones
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Every once in awhile I will run across a post that I either read before some where elso or is written so good I know it had to be copied.

Jun 19, 2008 11:51 AM #114
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Lenn, this came out in the newsletter this AM so I looked and said, I don't remember this article on snippets, then I read all the comments and about 3/4 way down I see Caleb commenting and think, oh good, Caleb is back. Then I look at the year and go on no it was done in June 2007, not June 2008.

Worth repeating, obviously....

Jun 20, 2008 05:28 AM #115
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Mona LaCovey RE/MAX Experts Annapolis, Md.

Thank you for this very valuable information!

Jun 24, 2008 02:19 PM #116
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C. Lloyd McKenzie
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My comment on this topic is late is coming.  This is two years after the fact, but we are talking about a timeless topic here.  There is no excuse for plagiarism.  There is an accepted format to cite other people's work.  The internet, blogging, whatever the forum, should not change this.  What I have heard, is that there are those who would try to copyright words, with the intention of cashing in on it.  Let's take for example the case of McDonald filing a lawsuit against a company in Singapore, I believe it was, for infringement on its trade name.  The court ruled against McDonald, because it did not believe that there was any evidense of infringement.  The company was selleng some kind of chicken cuisine.  As it relates to the writings of an individual, if it's in the public domain one should be able to cite it without any problem.

Nov 08, 2009 08:09 PM #117
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C. Lloyd.  I look forward to your comment.  That said. , , , ,

Of course, there are perfectly legal ways to "cite" published works.  However, far too many simply "copy and paste" parts or all of published works that are copyright protected property of others without using the legal "fair use" standard.  Their intent is for readers to believe that they are the originators of the content that they stole.

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