Knob & Tube Wiring...

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Home Inspector with Complete Home Inspections, Inc.

complete home inspections, brentwood tnKnob & Tube Wiring...

has been around for several years, and is quite prevalent in many of the older, more established neighborhoods in Nashville, TN and other markets across the country. These are relatively safe systems IF, like sleeping dogs, you let them lie.

However, folks just L-O-O-OVE toknob and tube wiring, knob & tube wiring tinker. And for some reason, they just L-O-O-OVE to tinker with electricity. ((sigh)) They just get out the tape and wire nuts and go at it and leaving things as they are. Talk about dangling participles... 

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Rainmaker
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Barbara Todaro
"New Franklin MA Homes"
RE/MAX Executive Realty

Michael....I've been told that as long as the cloth around the wire is not unraveling, it's safe.....it is fightening to look at though....the bx cable in your photo looks safer.

November 28, 2009 06:51 AM
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Michael - Now THAT is cute!  Insurance companies are still asking people if the house they are buying has knob and tube wiring for a reason!  Even when the house is built in 1999...

November 28, 2009 07:01 AM
Rainmaker
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David Jirasek
ALC, CCIM
Jirasek Realty

Michael, I have a rent house with knob and tube wiring. To upgrade for the additional demand of modern day conveniences (refrigerator, A/C, etc.), about 15 years ago, I had a master electrician get rid of the old fuse boxes, adding breakers, change weatherhead, and add seperate lines (at current code) so not to add into the old system. Eventually, it may need to be rewired, but so far, there have been no problems.

November 28, 2009 07:53 AM
Rainmaker
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June Piper-Brandon
Piecing Dreams One Home at a Time
Century 21 New Millenium

Michael,  I see a lot of knob and tube wiring here in Baltimore.  Mostly it gets removed for more modern means.  But, tape and wirenuts are also prevalent, it's very scary sometimes!!  And, like Jay says, the insurance companies are asking if it has knob and tube for a reason.

November 28, 2009 08:00 AM
Rainmaker
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Mary Strang
Real Estate

Yikes, really was that supposed to be an improvement? I do run into some in our market place too. When it is found it usually gets replaced prior to closing as getting home owners insurance makes it an issue as well.  

November 28, 2009 08:00 AM
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Richard & Carol DeGrace
Mortgage Loan Officers NJ 609-209-3700
Aurora Financial Group | Mortgage Company - New Jersey

Great stuff - I get knob and tube in some of the older homes around here. Interesting point about leaving it alone. Thanks for the descriptive pictures - it helps !

November 28, 2009 08:08 AM
Rainmaker
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Brian Madigan
LL.B., Broker
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto)

Michael,

 

In Toronto, it's difficult to find an insurance company that will insure a property with knob and tube wiring.

 

Brian

November 28, 2009 08:38 AM
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Mike Parks
Inspector
Residential Building Inspectors

Replace the K & T. Period.

I have yet to see an existing installation that is safe.

If you find one let me know and send me pictures.

November 28, 2009 08:14 PM
Rainmaker
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Carra Riley
CRB, CRS, GRI
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Michael,

That insulation looks creepy... Good thing you know what is code and what is not... looks like  a mess to me. 

November 28, 2009 11:05 PM
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Charles Buell
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Michael, in Washington State we actually have a law that supersedes the NEC which allows for burying knob & tube wiring in insulation----go figure.

November 29, 2009 05:09 PM
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Mike Parks
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Charles

You have to be kidding but I know that you are not.

Very dangerous.

November 30, 2009 08:55 AM
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Robert L. Brown
Grand Rapids Real Estate Bellabay Realty, West Michigan
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That can be some serious stuff. I've seen alot of this in my tenure in the business.

December 13, 2009 01:00 PM
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