Health Care Reform ? not yet....

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The gap is closing.........and as more and more people learn the truth of what is really in the bill as opposed to rumor, innuendo and outright Lies more and more people are favoring the reform....

Forty-two percent (42%) of U.S. voters now favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the most positive result since mid-November, but still most voters remain opposed.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 52% of voters oppose the legislation........

Still a long way to go to get this bill passed...... keeping my hopes up...

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Rainmaker
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Karen Anne Stone
Fort Worth Real Estate
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County

Linda Mae:  The scare tactics our there by the right are all over the place.  Just one lie after another... and nobody seems to care that they continue to misrepresent the facts in this bill.

January 06, 2010 02:03 AM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

To All,

This bill may NEVER get passed...

Some are for it ...........some are against it...

I do not think it helps anyone to get emotional over something that has NOT happened...and might never happen..

God Bless everyone and let's all let ....His Will be done....

January 06, 2010 02:04 AM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

KAREN ANNE..

NICE TO SEE YOU.... SCARE TACTICS AND THREATS IS ALL THEY SEEM TO BE FULL OF... IT IS INDEED SAD... THEY SEEM TO BE GETTING ANGRIER AND ANGRIER....

 

January 06, 2010 02:07 AM
Rainmaker
59,033
Eileen Murphy, Curtis Lee "The Murphy-Lee Team"
Prudential Zack Shore Properties

Linda,

Yes the Death Panel was a lie, a stupid statement made by someone who was not one of the Republicans brightest. I think Democrats & Liberals keep bring that one up to make all the opposition look stupid.

I don't understand how you have read the Senate Bill? It's still not been made public, I was just on the Senate's website.

You claim not to be a Democrat, even a past Republican in you blog, but you swoon over Obama so, I find that hard to believe. I don't hate him, I don't trust him at all, but I don't hate him. You have posts about hatred for Muslims & Obama and you seem to paint with a awful big brush the opposition as bigots. This is the same old liberal trick label all conservatives as racist.

I think you come to your opinion honestly, I believe you are very very wrong, but entitled to be wrong and the anger you are seeing is the lack of respect shown to our thoughts by the media. Yes a hand full of extra right wing wackos are out saying stupid things, but I suggest a larger group of left wing wackos are out spouting how good the bill is without knowing what they are talking about.

I appolgize for not signing my last post,

Curtis

January 06, 2010 03:02 AM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Curtis

Thank you for your well thought out reply..

Yes i BLINDLY was a Republican all my life and because i am a Christian Believed it my DUTY to vote in every election for the Republican candidates NEVER KNOWING what they stood for..and until AR never caring...

It is within these pages i have acquired what little knowledge i do have politically....Therefore ANY and ALL OPINIONS are based on my findings here in AR... In the REAL world apart from AR I DO NOT give a HOOT about This "stuff"

I care about telling people that God is Good,  God ALONE is in charge and if God did not want Obama to be President he would NOT be...

Therefore my "swooning" over Obama is a reflection and extention of my duty to God..because ultimately HE ALONE is the one I obey...

As to the Bill the original is indeed available in print and audio and if you follow along with the POSTED changes to it... is is available to the public.....

As to my posts about hatred for Muslims and Obama.... it is others claiming to be Christians doing the hating..my posts are to ask how they can hate these people and love God..the point of my posting has NOTHING to do with politics and EVERYTHING to do with GOD...politics is just the means to the end....

Have a great New Year... and Remember Jesus Loves you...

January 06, 2010 09:37 AM
Anonymous #12
Anonymous
Georgia

Both the senate and house bills on heathcare are going to harm any ill person on medicare or medicaid because they reduce the money available for that care.  Don't give a crap do you?

Both bills are going to STEAL from your neighbors pockets (with the help of the strong armed politicians) and GIVE to you.  Let's be honest here.  That *IS* the reason you support the bill.  Because you can "legally" take money from someone else for your care.  You want the security of the government taking care of you and don't care about those they are going to take it from. 

Any citizen who WANTS to be responsible for themselves and not STEAL from others are against this corrupt bill.  FORCING at the end of the IRS "GUN" all citizens to pay to go to jail doesn't sound very FREE to me.

Sorry to be so frank, but it sickens me the way you try to  spin this as something "good" for MOST Americans.  If I were to believe you, the 30 million (or less) uninsured legal citizens are MORE IMPORTANT and their "needs" (not rights!) are MORE IMPORTANT than the 300 MILLION that are insured and happy with their care. 

I'd say as a Christian I have no idea how you can back an infant murderer and torturer...obama  Yes, that is correct.  Torturer of infants.  Check his voting record in IL.   He not only voted 100% of the time to kill infants but also to NOT GIVE THEM CARE and let them lay their, suffering and slowly die.  The thing he calls "wife" held more than one FUND RAISER for the benefit of WITHHOLDING CARE TO INFANTS to let them die.  Great guy.  Really Christian.

Now go ahead and try to justify backing this evil man.

January 06, 2010 12:34 PM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Georgia.

I already have ACCCHS and, this Bill, IF it affects me personally at all will most likely Harm me NOT HELP me...

I am thinking of those who have No help...

Emergency room care is not enough Most time it is too late by the time they seek medical care...

They need preventive medicine..For 40 years i never once complained about paying taxes... up until 2007 i paid a minimum og $38,000.00 THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND to the federal government ANNUALLY....I could care less what they needed it for... God tells me to be a cheerful giver and to give to Caesar what he asks for... I DO........

As for your Rant... makes you look little.... you only denigrate yourself..

The old GUILT TRIP Obama kills babies and therefore so do i..WILL NOT NOR DOES NOT cut it.. Go try to scare someone else...

Jesus Loves You

January 06, 2010 01:00 PM
Anonymous #14
Anonymous
Anonymous

Linda Mae, the Rasmussen organization is ultra conservative, i wouldnt put any stock in their baised polls.  I see "Georgia" is back commenting.

January 06, 2010 05:42 PM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Terry,

Like A@@ holes we ALL have an opinion... Georgia's stinks but she/he certainly has the right to voice it....

Mine is Obama is doing a good job... and i pray he gets tough and does a great job.....

One thing i do Know is he is NOT evil.. human but NOT evil........

God Bless America and god bless Our President......

January 06, 2010 08:58 PM
Anonymous #16
Anonymous
Anonymous

Linda,

I'm convinced the bill will be passed in a diluted form, but it's a start.

January 07, 2010 12:29 AM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Terry C.

Amazing the few above who make me out to be the Bad guy.......It is a shame because of some holding so tightly to their purse strings the Bill has to be so diluted to get passed......

but you are right at least it is a start in the right direction.....

January 07, 2010 12:53 AM
Anonymous #18
Anonymous
Georgia

"Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act

 

by Jill Stanek, guest reporter

He often stood alone as an Illinois lawmaker in opposition to protections for babies who survived abortion.

On Jan. 10, 2005, newly elected U.S. Sen. Barack Obama visited former colleagues and staffers at the Illinois state Capitol, where he had served seven years as state senator. I happened to be at the Capitol that day, too, and a friend and I took the opportunity to speak to Obama, who had not yet achieved rock-star status and was still approachable.

We were in Springfield to lobby for passage of the state Born Alive Infant Protection Act, legislation that would require hospitals to care for infants who survive an abortion. Obama spoke against the legislation in 2001 and 2002 and single-handedly defeated it in committee in 2003.

My friend stood in Obama's path and said, "Senator, we are going to pass Born Alive here in Illinois this year."

Obama smiled smoothly and agreed, "I think you will," adding, "I would have voted for the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois had it been worded the same as the federal bill. I think that's the position the Democrats should take."

There's just one thing he forgot to mention: Obama had stopped his committee from adding the federal wording.

With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.

First encounter

An Illinois lawmaker offered the first draft of the state's Born Alive Infant Protection Act in 2001 after I revealed publicly that Christ Hospital left babies who survived abortion - viable babies whose delivery was induced, and whom the abortionist intended to kill but somehow survived - in a utility room to die.

The bill, sponsored by state Sen. Patrick O'Malley of Oak Lawn defined "born alive" using language identical to that of federal legislation introduced in 2000 by Rep. Charles Canady, R-Fla., who in turn drafted wording developed by the World Health Organization in 1950 and adopted by the United Nations in 1955:

The term "born alive," with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.

I first encountered Barack Obama on March 27, 2001, when I testified before the Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he was a member.  My testimony included my description of holding a premature aborted baby until he died:

One night, a nursing co-worker was taking an aborted Down's syndrome baby who was born alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have time to hold him.  I could not bear the thought of this suffering child dying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived.  He was 21 to 22 weeks old, weighed about ½ pound, and was about 10 inches long.  He was too weak to move very much, expending any energy he had trying to breathe.  Toward the end, he was so quiet that I couldn't tell if he was still alive unless I held him up to the light to see if his heart was still beating through his chest wall.  After he was pronounced dead, we folded his little arms across his chest, wrapped him in a tiny shroud, and carried him to the hospital morgue where all of our dead patients are taken.

Obama opposed Born Alive in committee, but voted "present" - neither "yes" nor "no," but merely "present" - on the state Senate floor, one of many "present" votes that Hillary Clinton has cited as evidence that Obama lacks leadership skills. Clinton voted for the federal Born Alive bill, putting her on record as more pro-life than Obama."

 

 

January 07, 2010 09:08 AM
Anonymous #19
Anonymous
Georgia

You can't defend the evil of obama's actions, so you delete the post.  Guess, what?  He will still be held accountable for his votes, lobbying and actions of torturing infants born alive during an abortion.  Let me hear you defend those actions.  

January 07, 2010 09:12 AM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Georgia,

You are about 18 months late on this .... I wrote posts and debated back and forth on this  September/October 2008...

Trust me there is not ONE thing ANYWHERE on the Internet about this subject  including the Court Room Trial MANUSCPIPT

where the parents of the longest living survivor of attempting to save these babies TWENTY ONE days... went to court and BEGGED the judge NOT to change the law because they made the WRONG decision to give their baby life saving measures because all they accomplished was to drag out the AGONIZING pain of suffering for 21 days of a baby that should have died within minutes........

Also the nurse that held the baby in the closet you reference tesified in that Court Room and when asked if Life saving measures would have saved the Baby she Stated NO

IT WON"T WORK Georgia 

Abortion has been around since the creation of man/woman..

Been legal for decades......

Go blame someone else.....

ONE thing I do Know is there is a God and you are not Him

ULTIMATELY THE ONLY ONE RESPONSIBLE BEFORE GOD IS THE WOMAN WHO CHOOSE TO GET THE ABORTION

NOT

THE ONES SUPPLYING SAFE CONDITIONS SO SHE DOESN'T KILL HERSELF WITH A COAT HANGER

I will leave up your comments because they only serve to PROVE how NARROW MINDED you are......

YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THEY WILL BUY THIS GARBAGE THAT OBAMA IS THE ONLY ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABORTION?

BUSH'S  HELD OFFICE FOR 12 YEARS WHAT THE HECK DID THEY DO WHILE THE BABIES WERE ON THE TABLE DYING?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.....

 

January 07, 2010 01:42 PM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Comment # 19

NOTHING ON THIS POST HAS BEEN DELETED.......

January 07, 2010 07:05 PM
Rainer
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Ron Brown
MLO-270845 VA/FHA Specialist, Alpine Mortgage Planning NMLS 81395
Division of Pinnacle Capital Mortgage Corp

Wow, 42% of the people still willing to blindly believe that a Bill of over 2000 pages is not going to crush our government, and put our grand-kids in the poor house?

Even Howard Dean recognizes this as the worst Pork Barrel solution there is.  Insurance is Not the Answer, Insurance is the Problem (you know the companies who are about to get a windfall of 30 milion new customers, paid for by you and me!)

January 09, 2010 03:44 PM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

Ron , sorry.. But as you know this is a FACT of life ... humans are divided on every issue Known to mankind...

Wishing you the Best with this one...

God bless

January 09, 2010 04:20 PM
Rainer
122,279
Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

TO ALL

ANY ONE WITH ANY INTEREST IN GEORGIA'S COMMENTS MAY VIEW MY OPINION ON THE SUBJECT FROM A POST I WROTE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2008 AND IT'S ENSUING COMMENTS...

OBAMA AND "LIVE BIRTH" OR "LATE TERM ABORTION'

I LEAVE THE REST TO THE ULTIMATE AND "ONLY"  JUDGE ....GOD....

AND AS I SAID ABOVE "THERE IS A GOD AND NONE OF YOU ARE HIM"

January 10, 2010 01:00 AM
Rainer
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Es r
CSR

Linda,

You state that for years you blindly followed the Republican agenda and that now you get a bulk (if not all of your political info via this website.  You also state that you care little for this political stuff and are just here for God.

I have to take issue with you. First, I commend you for ceasing your blind following of the Republican platform, however it seems you threw out the baby with that bathwater. You now seem to have adopted the Democratic agenda, hook, line, and sinker. You identify yourself as a Christian and so I understand that you want to help everyone. The Democrats suggest a bill that sounds like it will do that so you are for it. You have not read it, cause no one has yet, and from what little you do know, you must know that it does little of the good that it set out to do. Again, as a Christian your intent is to care for your fellow man/woman. You have stated in other blogs that in this instance the ends justify the means and that you don't care how they do it, but that you want everyone to have health care.

I would like to suggest that you are a very dangerous person. Why? Because, by your own admission, you blindly endorsed a party for years that you knew little about. I think you are doing that again. You have selectively heard what you want and have selectively reiterated democratic charges (death panels) to make your point. You are dangerous in that you have a voice and lend it to the cause that soothes your concious best. I do not want and should not be expected to be ruled by your uninformed conscious.

I can get behind anyone who belives something contrary to me if they can honestly back it up with thoughtful points. I cannot get behind someone who hasn't deeply considered what they belive and why they belive it.

I hope to be known as a person who argues against tyranny (in all political parties). I hope to be seen as an educator and an activist for questioning and truth. As I am neither Republican nor Democrat, my enemy is not a party loyalist but a non-thinker. You are my enemy (strictly in a political sense).You are an affront to my well being and your blogs deserve dissent.

I hope to see that you deeply think about your political persepctive as it does matter. God did not put Barack Obama in office. Voters did. God gave them free will to do that. Please do not think that God will take care of all this. I am asking you to take some personal responsibility for your beliefs and know that you must take care of this, with me and everyone else.

To make my long point short, you are not blind, but you wear blinders. You trust that God will tell you when to wear them and when not to. I am saying that I think you have forgotten that God didn't give you eyes to wear blinders. HE may be asking you to open your eyes to the tyranny of man and not trust the pretty words and thoughts that soothe your conscious. I am asking you to question the intent of those that rule us. I am asking you why the most ruthless and ambitous man wins the presidency and is now regarded as selfless and kind. Question authority and limit it's ability to do harm. There is but one authority and you know who that is.

January 12, 2010 02:41 AM
Rainer
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Linda Mae Croom
(928) 768-3040

CF Escrow..

WOW ALL THAT ? you must have some real Issues...

As for "I would like to suggest that you are a very dangerous person."

Politically thinking this is the MOST absurd comment (next to i am a baby murderer) I have ever heard..

How ridiculous to think that politically I am a danger to you, my Country or ANYONE for that matter...

NOW I will tell you that as A Christian I not only, can be, but I am, through the Holy Ghost inside of me ......POWERFUL through Intercession and Prayer and the Blood of Jesus.......shed on Calvary..

I find it EXTREMELY QUESTIONABLE as to why ANYONE would go to such time consuming written word lengths to come against some simple little old women sitting  in the middle of the Mohave desert in a town of 1200 people with one gas pump and a 1000 sq ft grocery store and CHARGE ME with such HUGE Attributes ????? 

Go figure.... 

Thank you for the compliment BUT it is misplaced..

God bless you

January 12, 2010 12:53 PM
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