Craig Proctor. Has anyone tried his system?

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Today one of the agents who is a part of our group went to a FREE Craig Proctor Seminar. She came back very excited and wanted to pay $1495 for his Marketing System etc.

Has anyone ever tried his system? Did it work? Would you recommend it.

 

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Jamie Saccullo

Don't do it. It is a waste of money. Craig is a master and thousands of people have signed up for coaching. Only a handful make money and most of them probably would do well on their own.

Feb 02, 2012 04:42 PM #115
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Jamie

I used the system from about 2004 to 2008. I only used a small portion of what was taught and had good success getting leads. I did have a low conversion rate of getting the leads to close.  I used such a small portion of the system because of trial and error.

The technique that worked for me was advertisment that looked like an editorial then refered them to 800 number for a free report or website. One closing pays for the program well worth the cost. This system does cost money to run but the return is well above anything else I found.

After the initial $1500.00 I spent about $200 a month on the website and 800 numbers and coaching. I spent about $1000 with the ads in multiple media outlets. I averaged about 20 new leads a week. I closed a min of 3 leads a month and averaged 5 closings a month. It took me about 6 months to get everything working to get these numbers.

Hope this helps what it takes to make the system work.

Mar 06, 2012 01:56 PM #116
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Angela

I recently signed up for the May conference in Anaheim.  I attended the free 3 hour workshop and the presenter, James, did a great job.  He said we had a day to check our schedules, talk it over with our spouse etc. to decide if we wanted to cancel or not.  There was presure to sign up on the spot to save $300 dollars.  I emailed the next day within 24 hours to request a cancellation.  After several exchanged emails with Joceyln I was basically told I had to cancel that same day and it was NOT a day to think about it, but just the rest of that afternoon.

She also told me that as a Realtor I should know better than to sign a contract without reading the fine print.  And she said once they process the payment they can't reverse it.  When I asked about the 90 day guarantee she said there wasn't one, it was for the website.

I told her flat out that if this wasn't handled properly I would be posting this experience under the reviews.  The response was pretty much I screwed up by not cancelling the same day and tough shit.  She never asked why I wanted to cancel in the first place.

This put such a bad taste in my mouth against the whole system.  I did notice on the back page of my contract that I have up until noon on the 2nd day to return everything for a full refund.  I will be watching my clock to be sure I don't make it 12:01!  But now I have to book a hotel and spend more money to get a refund.  And they will have a lot of negative feedback from me about the whole experience.

I really wish I would have checked out the reviews before the free seminar and not after!  I never would have signed up in the first place.  

 

 

 

    

Mar 21, 2012 12:40 PM #117
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Ken

Thanks Angela!

I was at a half day promo for the May 2012 conference. I agree, James did a GREAT job of stimulating interest (which is why I am here today!) AND they did a great job promoting the half-day which overcame my reluctance to deal with Craig Proctor.

I had several concerns nagging at me.

Firstly, there is the obvious one  (mentioned by a previous poster) about how YOU won't need to discount commissions anymore  but if you sign up RIGHT NOW we will discount $300....???

Secondly, there was the continuous offering of "insights" that were designed to have you nod YES (and get in the habit of nodding YES). Stuff like  "Have you ever worked with a client who is a pain, but you didn't flush them because you didn't have others lining up to work with you?"  This sets my nerves on edge because it is so much like the AMWAY people asking "Could you find a use for an extra $1000 per month?" (Duh. I guess I'll need to think about that. I'll get back to you.)

Thirdly, and I want to be very cautious here. I have not met CP and would not slander him for anything, especially if some people find value in his program. Awhile back I listened in on a conference call and heard somebody ask about guaranteeing to buy homes they could not sell. Their concern was "I cannot possibly afford to be buying property I have already found it difficult to sell". Unless I mis-heard the answer it was along the lines of: The purpose of putting that offer in the ad is to get them to call you before they call other Realtors. Once the phone rings, that promise has served its purpose. You can put any conditions on the home-purchase plan that you wish. To me this is too close to bait-and-switch, making an offer, to get an advantage in the market, that you have designed a way to weasel out of by imposing onerous conditions. If I am unfair to the guy in seeing it this way I will accept a just rebuke and offer my apologies in advance..

Finally, and this one is a niggle since I knew it was a marketing presentation. I do not like being teased. The part where they say there are 10 important usp's in the listing presentation (that you cannot get without parting with $497) and here is ONE of them.... bugged me a bit. Perhaps I am too cynical, but I  have been burned too many times with "magic words" and "secret 20 point strategies" etc etc

Mar 21, 2012 04:26 PM #118
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Jay Macklin

Look Guys (Ladies too)

This system is like buying a McDonalds franchise...it has everything you need to be successful all you need to do is FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS!!! Its that simple. We as agents tend to over complicate this process. The Proctor system and quite frankly Craig Proctor himself will help you change your life for the better ONLY if you make the effort. As one of the other bloggers mentioned  "the coaches dont sell Real Estate any longer" is completely False. Thats one of the best parts about this system, they all have real world experience that is relevent to any market place. This program has completely changed my way of doing business, because of the Proctor system, i am a better agent, broker and friend to all of my clients. There is absolutely NO bait and switch with this marketing. Its all about WIIFM and NOT about whats in it for the agent. Stop thinking about how to market yourself and start thinking about how to market for Buyers and Sellers. This is the ONBLY way you will make any kind of real money in this business. I sperak from experience working this program for the last 31/2 years and I have gone from $12 Million is sales in 2008 to over $60 Million in 2011 and well on our way to $75 Million for 2012...All i can say is I wasnt the smartest kid in school but i was smart enough to sit next to him...

 

This system wont work if you dont try but if you try, listen and do what your coach tells you to, it almost Dummy proof.

Mar 30, 2012 12:24 PM #119
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Cyndi Carver
John L Scott, Inc. - Issaquah, WA
Issaquah & Bellevue Specialist

I went to the Super Conference and spoke to Craig face to face. I love it that he doesn't have a lot of people hovered around him during the breaks. This only confirms that he doesn't have the egos so many of the other trainers have. I came away buying the whole kit and kaboodle. I'm giving it a year and working on one thing at a time. It's the first conference I've been to that I felt I got more than what I was expecting!

Jun 18, 2012 12:08 AM #120
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Mike Woods
msWoods Real Estate, LLC - Indianapolis, IN

I recieved an email from Craig Proctor's organization today. In the email he claims to be a billionaire. With a claim like that, I'd have to see a verified finacial statement from a trusted source. I've copy/pasted the statement here: 

Join Billionaire Agent Craig Proctor on this webinar as he answers these questioms:

I didn't copy/paste the entire email, but kept it if you want to see it.

Oct 06, 2012 12:00 PM #121
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Peter Lavelle REALTOR®, GRI SRES, ABR
Advance Realty Express, LLC - Philadelphia, PA
SOLD@100%Market Value,or I Pay You the Difference

I know this is an older post but please do not waste your time and money. There are books you can purchase that will give you pretty much the same information.

Oct 10, 2012 11:24 AM #122
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Stephan

Craig Proctor's system makes a lot of sense and is based on solid ideas of direct marketing. The extra expense of coaching is not mandatory so you can get started on a limited budget. For me, I am going to give it my all and everything because having prospects raise their hand and call you instead of the miserable alternatives of door knocking and calling FSBO's and expireds out of the blue is certainly attractive. It's just a more sophisticated way of generating business. There's nothing dishonest about it. It's based on marketing principles of Dan kennedy and others. this stuff works.

Nov 16, 2012 10:00 PM #123
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Syl Mino

I think you need a system an automation. You need a coach that is successfully doing the work today, with their hands  in it on a daily basis. Genereating leads, is not hard. Converting leads to prospects can be time consuming if you do not automate your business. Essentially, you need a system like infusionsoft, to really kick your business up, and let them coach you through the setup process. Of course, once setup and automated, the next step is to follow up with every single lead!

 

Nov 20, 2012 08:50 PM #124
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Chuck

I believe that the best systems are the ones that we created ourselves.  I'm reading about people spending huge amounts of money for coaching and lead generation.  My advise is to set some realistic goals and partner with someone from your office to hold yourself accountable.  Take the money that you saved on coaching and spend it on some advertizing and other marketing. REALTOR.com, Top Producer, Zillow and Trulia all have great lead generating programs for a fraction of what Mr Proctor is charging.  Like Tom Ferry on facebook and you will get some free coaching.  Remember a system is only going to work if it is implemented.  Now roll up your sleeves and get prospecting!

Nov 29, 2012 12:36 PM #125
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Andy

I attended the Craig Proctor half day seminar; there was a lot of information to take in, great ideas.  I was impressed so I signed up for the superconference, afterall, they guaranteed that if you didn't like the first day and a half, you would be refunded the entire amount plus airfare. 

Onto the superconference I went.  The first day and a half was very informative, keep in mind these are 13 hour days over a period of 3 days (day 3 ended at 2pm.)  It seemed like after the day and a half (after the guarantee period) most of the good information went out the window and turned into a coaching program testimonial and sales seminar.  They even bribed everyone to stay with the chance to win an Ipad at the end of the day.   There was probably about 400 people in the room, and about 1/2 of the room purchased the coaching program, which was $995 a month.  I was not one of them.  Those that did not purchase the coaching system were offered a deal on the next seminar. 

Overall, I felt the super conference was worth attending, many new ideas to help my business.  You can definitely find cheaper vendors for your websites and such, but it seems like they are plug and play, little to no setup.  You can implement many of these systems yourself, but if you are the type that need a kick in the butt and need accountability, than the coaching system may be beneficial.

Dec 26, 2012 07:53 AM #126
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Mike Crosby
Mike Crosby Realty - Placentia, CA
La Mirada Real Estate - 714-742-2897

Wide range of opinions on the Craig Proctor system.   I purchased the Home study course and then went to the 3 day course several year ago.   I did not impliment the whole system.  But I did use the VIP Buyer presentation and a modified version of the VIP Buyer.  That piece along has been worth Thousands and thousand to me.  If not Craig Proctor, Who would you suggest getting information from?  

Apr 02, 2013 07:47 PM #127
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John Foster
RE/MAX All Properties - Cumming, GA

Did you ever try his system?

Aug 05, 2013 02:18 PM #128
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Sami dada
If you want to be his next victim go ahead , I got ripped off and so were my associates. He is like a Dracula sucking you blood (money) luring into different levels. God be with you if you stiill want to get screwed.
Aug 17, 2013 07:43 PM #129
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The Albert Team KW Port St. Lucie FL 34986 Residential Real Estate - 772-708-3292
Keller Williams Realty - Port St Lucie, FL
Our Goal is to meet your Real Estate Needs

Ron and I signed up for the Craig Proctor System and we are thrilled.  It is a complete business plan which includes Coaching, Scripts, websites both branded and unbranded and a step by step training program with guidelines.  It is expensive, however it has proved itself to work in any market.  We are happy with the program.

Nov 13, 2013 06:10 AM #130
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MONA
HI SAMY, HAVE YOU FOUND ANY REDEAMING CAUSE IN CRAIG PROCTOR TRAYNING SYSTEM? OR A TOTAL FALIURE? DID YOU ATEND THE 3 DAYS SEMINAIRE? DID YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK? HAVE YOU FOUND A GURU THAT REALLY WORKS? THANKS SAMY
Jan 26, 2014 03:42 PM #131
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Lina Sarkissians
JohnHart Real Estate - Glendale, CA
CDPE, Short Sale and Foreclosure Resource, SRES

Greg Luther is using a very similar program for $997.  The package comes with a 6 week training on Craigslist, Open houses, Scripts, Website---

I would hate to lose out this money.  Any feedback would be appreciated?

Jan 30, 2014 05:06 PM #132
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Mystoura Afolabi

You do get your money back with no questions asked before the end of Craig Proctor's seminar. I attended 2 years ago and after the 2nd day, I knew I wasn't ready for the extra fees you have to pay for his program, so I asked for my oney back and they gave it to me.

Apr 04, 2014 11:20 AM #133
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Joe Realtor

I dont know if you have THE CAREER COMPASS in Az. Let me put it this way, THE CAREER COMPASS is only $195 and you get to go to their program/seminar FOR LIFE FOR FREE. Let me just put it this way, after you go to career compass...you wont need any other real estate training...ever.

Jul 17, 2014 04:25 PM #134
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