Should a Seller disclose EVERYTHING? Not always!

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Real Estate Agent with Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento Area) DRE# 00809499

Crazy Woman with crazy collender on her headShould a Seller disclose EVERYTHING? I used to think so, until I listed CW's* home. "I can't fill out the Transfer Disclosure Statement", she said. "If I do no one will buy this home".

"REALLY??"  I'm thinking mold in the attic and a dead body in the backyard.

"So, what's wrong with it?"

"Well, we get turkeys jumping on our roof... TURKEYS! They're terrible. And planes fly overhead.  I've even seen helicopters."

"Really", I say. "What else".

"The neighbors.  They are terrible.  I hate them".

"Uh hmm... What else".

"I've seen termites fly out of the ground before... behind our fence. And there are spiders.  Lots of them.  And bugs. They're awful.".

"And I hate this neighborhood."

"No kidding".... This woman is nuts, I think. This is one of our best neighborhoods - very much in demand.

Now, she is not certifiably nuts.  She is a working professional, and makes a lot of money. But she is nuts in the Sally Dunbar Book of Character Assessment.

"Ya know, those items are all PREFERENCES", I tell her. "They are not disclosure issues.  Every Fair Oaks neighborhood has turkeys.  And we live in nature and nature has termites. And spiders. And bugs. We just disclose if they are eating our house. We only disclose factual issues that effect our home - not preferences."

And, I think, a nut job like you would be a disclosure issue for the neighbors if THEY sell! Imagine living by her!  As it turns out the neighbors had a block party when she moved. She had quite a reputation as a CW... Crazy Woman. And I developed a new cocktail named after her.  It ends in "Slammer", cause that's what I wanted to do this entire escrow.

But we made it through the transaction. Amid unbelievably controlling behavior at the escrow signing, and antics I could write a book about, we closed the deal. Now the new owners are loving the wonderful neighbors, photographing the turkeys, and appreciating their beautiful new neighborhood.

 

 

Crazy Lady by BigStock photos

copyright 2011, Sally Dunbar

 

 

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Sally Dunbar, 35 year Broker Associate, Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks, CA (916) 524-1548, SDunbar@GoLyon.com "Your Fair Oaks Realtor"

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Lee & Pamela St. Peter
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Thanks for the chuckle Sally!  If all our 'disclosure' issues where this easy!!! :)
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Sep 12, 2011 02:53 PM #78
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I have them follow the questions on the disclosure. I do think that excessive airplane noise could be a disclosure, and also the turkeys? animal pests? Not sure about the rest.....ugh

Sep 12, 2011 05:35 PM #79
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Hmm, sounds like the book you could write would have a bit of humor, drama, suspense, and a happy ending.  I'm interested!

Sep 12, 2011 06:09 PM #80
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Ok, turkeys on the roof is a new one!  You are one brave soul and I expected to read something other than your blissful ending.  Any story that ends with a closing has a blissful ending. 

Sep 12, 2011 11:33 PM #81
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Singh Real Estate - Corral de Tierra, CA

We have one of those in our neighborhood(not the turkey)

Sep 13, 2011 12:50 AM #82
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Sally Dunbar
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This is NOT the house of the crazy lady, although I did manage to sell this home despite, or maybe because of, the charming turkeys.

 

turkeys in front of a mansion

Sep 13, 2011 09:47 AM #83
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Caryn Baker
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you need to share the drink recipe with all of us because we all have the crazies to deal with and always will!  we should all get hourly rates on-line with that of licensed therapists!

Sep 13, 2011 10:43 AM #84
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Sally:  Ah, to each his or her own eh?! Carrie

Sep 13, 2011 12:48 PM #85
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We have turkeys and I love seeing them.  Matter of fact, Thanksgiving at my house!!!  Funny story, I"m glad you survived. 

Sep 13, 2011 05:46 PM #86
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Turkey's jumping over the roof?  That's a new one for me as well.  -Kasey

Sep 14, 2011 12:22 AM #87
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At least you have turkeys!  We have turkey vultures in our neck of the woods.  Really nasty looking birds. But more importantly, I want to know where I can buy a "Hat" like the one the woman in the picture in your post is wearing!!! LOL

Sep 14, 2011 12:32 AM #88
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Too funny! I think I have some additions for your book of Character Assessments! Thank you for the laugh, and glad to hear about the block party. You really should farm the neighborhood and capitolize on getting rid of the CW.

Sep 14, 2011 12:41 AM #89
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Funny, funny Funny.  You made us all laugh out loud. No one ever said Real estate was boring.

Turkeys on the roof?

Sep 14, 2011 12:52 AM #90
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What I tell the sellers regarding disclsoure is this: Obvioulsy anything pertaining to the property such as a material defect must be disclosed and that is required by law. As far as "other issues"; if you feel that that is something that you would have wanted disclosed to you when you were buying a property, then you should probably disclose it. If you think a reasonable buyer would be influenced in the decision making by knowing or not knowing the fact, you should probably disclose it.

 

My rule: disclose, disclose, disclose.  (say it 3 times like location).

 

Sellers only get in trouble for not disclosing enough. No seller has ever been in trouble for disclosing too much.

 

Sep 14, 2011 02:47 PM #91
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Failure to disclose the presence of invasive wildlife and the fact that the subject house is under a frequently used flight path could lead to a very unhappy buyer and possible court action. Stranger things have happened.

#26 does not believe that a pedophile living across the street (a registered sex offender???) is a disclosure issue?

Sep 14, 2011 10:26 PM #92
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A humorous blog post and I love the photo too! Thanks for sharing it!

Sep 15, 2011 03:45 PM #93
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Great post. Iv'e heard some strange sayings but i've never heard the term "Turnkey jumping off the roof" To funny. We here in So Calf. would love to pic k and choose what to disclose but by law we must disclose it all.

 

Sep 16, 2011 01:23 PM #94
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I didn't know turkeys flew high enough to get on a roof, hilarious! Congrats to you, Sally for not letting a CW keep you from a successful transaction.

Sharon

Sep 18, 2011 04:58 PM #95
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Sally, Few posts make me laugh out loud, but yours did. It was enjoyed by lots of people. Thanks for the laugh Phil
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Sally, I am hoping that the picture in your post was of your crazy-woman seller, and not of YOU after this women got through running over you with all of her "concerns."  We deal with such "interesting" people, don't we ?

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