Former Marine's injury spurs vets to join Occupy movement

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Although they've been participating in Occupy protests throughout the country, vets say their ranks have been swelling since last week, when former Marine and Iraq War vet Scott Olsen sustained a skull fracture when he was hit by a police projectile at an Occupy Oakland protest .

"His injury has definitely galvanized veterans,'' says University of Illinois senior Scott Kimball, who served in Iraq as an Army specialist. He'll be helping coordinate today's New York City event, which begins with an 11 a.m. march from Vietnam Veterans Plaza to Liberty Square.

"We're getting calls from veterans across the country who are extremely angry and appalled that someone who served two tours in Iraq got injured as a well-behaved protester,'' says Kimball, 27. "It's rallying vets across the country. We're just seeing the beginning of it."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-01/occupy-wall-street-veterans/51031852/1

 

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Mike Frazier
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This vet(me) has a real job and I ain't joining this movement!

Nov 02, 2011 04:23 PM #1
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Karl Hess
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Uh huh, unemployment rate for vet's is over 12.5%.

Nov 02, 2011 05:33 PM #2
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Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
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Karl is was DOUBLE 12.5% after Viet Nam....many will go to college on GI bill and get their benefits and are counted in this statistic.

The ISSUE in Oakland is the NEWBIE mayor who is over her head, the lack of SEASONED safety officers for lack of funding AND the attractiveness of the area where the movement is happening.

I lay this ENTIRELY at the mayor's head!  She handled this poorly from the get!

Nov 02, 2011 06:07 PM #3
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Than Maynard
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Uh huh and that vet (Olsen) hates the Marines. He has his own website for 'venting' about the military. Mostly name calling and accusations with out facts.

Oh, the broken jaw? No proof it was the cops, and most likely something thrown by a protester. Why do I say this? All the video shows the cops rolling tear gas canisters into the crowd. BTW, you break the law you run the risk of getting injured, especially when your 'peeps' are attacking the police.

To the media: Let's not mention the fact the protesters knew days in advance that they were to vacate before the appointed time. Let's not mention that the protesters were throwing bottles, rocks and cans of paint at the police. The police simply 'attacked' these innocent, law abiding, peaceful protesters. What a load of partisan reporting, but we are talking about the MSM, so........

Oh and isn't this in CA, the land of liberal love? Why are the Democrats in charge ordering these peaceful protestors beaten up?

Nov 02, 2011 06:11 PM #4
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Karl -

 

There's video of one of the protestors admitting - on live TV - that it was their pelting the police with rocks and bottles first, that instigated the totally appropriate response that they received.  It's too bad Olson got hurt, but it just proves the old adage, "You play with fire, and sooner or later, you're going to get burnt".

 

You can see the video here.

Nov 03, 2011 05:10 AM #5
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Wallace, you are absolutely right, the mayor and police chief are in over thier heads.

Than, pure speculation and what, vet's aren't allowed to be critical of the military or the war?

Jeff, Oakland should've taken a lesson from NYC.

Nov 03, 2011 09:47 AM #6
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Than Maynard
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Karl: Not what I said. But he is being reported as a "VET!" (implying honor, integrity, love of country, patriotic), not someone that did not receive an honorable discharge form the military.

Speculation? Really? So is it speculation that the police broke his jaw? This is the rallying cry being used by OWS and the media certainly haven't vetted the claim.

You state he was hit by a police projectile...Where is your proof? Oh wait, speculation is okay from the left, correct? No proof needed. Just assume those claiming it are honest, upper right citizen that don't have an axe to grind. Never mind they were breaking the law and attacked the police FIRST.

Nov 03, 2011 02:18 PM #7
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Nov 03, 2011 06:40 PM #8
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Karl doesn't need proof - he just believes everything that the press states is correct. Just put enough garbage out there Karl and someone might believe it. Perfect propaganda, Josef Goebels would be proud of you.

Nov 03, 2011 06:42 PM #9
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Rapes, Riots in the streets, violence, vandalism - just like the Tea Party rallies? Never - nothing can be compared to this mob rule mentality that President Obama has embraced. This will come back to bute him in 2012 by all sane Americans who see this mob as who they really are, and nothing can be said to justify this behavior.

Nov 03, 2011 09:32 PM #10
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Than and Nick:

http://youtu.be/OZLyUK0t0vQ

http://youtu.be/QngE6kKk8Lg

Since we do not know the reason for Olsen's administrative discharge, I would be hesitant to speak ill of someone who did two tours in Iraq.

 

 

Nov 03, 2011 09:51 PM #11
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Rapes, Riots in the streets, violence, vandalism - in the streets of America by these radicals and you still stand by them. You are a piece of work.

Nov 04, 2011 08:13 AM #12
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Than Maynard
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Karl, did you watch the carefully edited videos you provided?

The 1st video is a whole 1:30 long and conveniently starts after the protester is injured. And 20 people run back up there to help one person? Really? The cops are already on edge and another group charges towards them? (Do I think this ONE flash bang was appropriate? Probably not. But I have never faced off against a delusional mob of idiots before, so who knows what was going the through the policeman's mind.)

Both videos show that the police had cordoned off the area, neither show why the tear gas and flash bangs were used. (Again very convenient.) The second video shows protesters hurling tear gas back at the police and you can see other arms making throwing motions.

I feel no sympathy for them. Protest? Fine, great, that is their right. They can protest for communism, Marxism, socialism, free drugs, whatever they want, BUT when they break the law or attack the police their right to assemble gets out weighed by the need for public safety.

Again, protesters have admitted on national TV that they were throwing rocks, bottles, cans of paint and who knows what else at the police BEFORE the teargas was used. Who do you think is mostly likely to have injured that man? The police tossing flash bangs and tear gas or a protester in back chucking rocks or bottles or other things?

Nov 04, 2011 09:09 AM #13
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The problem here gentlemen is that the police should have found a better way, as they did in NYC.

Nov 04, 2011 09:24 AM #14
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Maybe the protesters should have found a better way like EVERY Tea Party protest did. It is the police's responsibility to maintain order and stop law breakers (or catch them after the fact). Not coddle criminals. Yes, these are criminals they clearly broke the law. Not all, but enough to get a response in force.

The media has ignored this as much as possible. When idiots showed up with Nazi signs at Tea Party protests the media lead with the RAAAACISTs at the Tea Party events. Even though the Nazis were not accepted and where pushed to the side and in many cases asked to leave. (We won't go into the proof that many were plants by anti-Tea Party elements. Yes, proved.) But the Communists, Socialists, Marxists that are openly a part of EVERY OWS movement are ignored by the media. Heck, OWS is supported by every anti-capitalist group around, but no big stories in the MSM.

But, I guess, obeying the law isn't necessary when you think you are correct or is it simply if you are on the left?

Nov 04, 2011 12:56 PM #15
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NYC * Bloomberg police is a HIGHLY trained para-military force.  Oakland's police is poorly trained SEMI-urban force and is usually augmented by county sheriff depts of surrounding counties.

Karl - LISTEN UP.  In CA, SAFETY OFFICERS are exactly that....I never heard of it before until I moved to NoCA and got educated by my cousin who was a reserve officer in Marin county and my cousin's husband who was CoP of Exeter, CA.  The LARGER governments - like Oakland - augment the broader sheriff departments SURROUNDING them so that when and if they need them, they will come.  This usually works except if there is a FIRE, the SAFETY OFFICERS - who are police for a few months and then firemen for a few months - on rotation are called into their OWN emergencies.  This was painfully tested during the Bay Area earthquake...police were pulling drivers from cars under collapsed bridge sections as there were no EMS.

The state of CA has been decimated by job losses and Oakland's prior mayor was - wait for it - JERRY BROWN.

The distain for the military in the state is legendary.  ROTC has been removed from schools and military members and their families are on welfare in many areas.

Nov 04, 2011 06:10 PM #16
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Than Maynard
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Great information Wallace. I have never heard that before either. I honestly couldn't imagine our local police force being called up to assist with riot control in Oklahoma City. They are good guys but most are out of shape and have never dealt with anything like this in their lives.

I do have a nephew who was a Marine and is now a police officer and I could see him handling a riot, of course I could also so him being quite capable of "smacking down" these idiots.

Nov 05, 2011 08:38 AM #17
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