Fires waiting to happen

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Real Estate Agent with HomeSmart Realty West CalBRE #01458572

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Today's post is a guest post by
San Diego home inspector Russel Ray.

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Zinsco electric panelElectric panels are not supposed to cause problems. They are supposed to prevent them. There are some electric panels that have problems associated with them — Federal Pacific Electric (FPE), Zinsco, Sylvania when they bought the Zinsco brand; they are just Zinsco panels under another name.

Whenever I find such panels, I recommend that they be replaced "before close of escrow." Some real estate agents don't like me specifying when something should be done, but I'm trying to protect the interests of my Clients. Those three brands are latent but significant fire hazards. The last thing I want to see is two real estate agents fighting over when to replace the electric panel. I have told them when to replace it — before close of escrow. There should be no discussion now other than who wants to pay how much to replace it.

In February 2012, over in Florida, after a house burned down, investigators blamed the FPE "Stab Lok" panel. Action 9 discovered other fires and the information about the FPE Stab Lok panels, information that we home inspectors know all too well.

Sellers like to take me to task by saying, "That panel has been there for thirty years and hasn't caused any problems." Electirc panels in and of themselves don't cause problems. They prevent problems, like a fire when the dishwasher shorts out. Some panels, like those mentioned, don't prevent such problems. They fail miserably.

If you have an FPE, Zinsco, or Sylvania panel, call your electrician now and have it replaced. It's not worth the risk of losing your home and all your possessions, valuable, and memories.

To read the complete article about the fires in Florida and the investigation by the Action 9 news team in Orlando, click Fires waiting to happen.

Federal Pacific Electric Stab Lok panel

 

Originally posted at Real Estate Solutions by Russel Ray

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Rainmaker
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Important stuff Jim and Russel. Once advised of the need to change something like this no one should argue. This is for safety reasons.

May 21, 2012 05:58 PM #1
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Jim - I appreciate the outreach ... from both you and a generation-removed home inspector!  Thanks for sharing ... both of you!

May 21, 2012 06:01 PM #2
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Hi Jim - This is great information from Russel - I miss his posts and his presence.

May 21, 2012 06:33 PM #3
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Robert (Bob) Gilbert
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Jim and Russel, Smart idea having Russel being a guest n Blog writer. Yolanda and I are on vacation and will be back after Memorial Day. Jim thanks for all the both excellent and funny comments you made on my blog. Have a great holiday and Yolanda says to give you two her best.
May 22, 2012 07:10 PM #4
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Gary L. Waters, Broker Owner Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC
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So much has been written about the FPE panels and still there are so many out there. The path to changing them out most likely will be through the home inspectors....

May 24, 2012 05:12 AM #5
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Jim - we need your guest poster to come back. We miss him and his silly ways.

May 24, 2012 12:49 PM #6
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Carla Freund
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Jim & Russel - Great post and great way to look out for the interest of the client! 

May 26, 2012 04:32 AM #7
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thanks for the guest post by Russel.. we all miss him.... it is good to see his work again!

May 28, 2012 07:29 AM #8
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Jim,

            Just stopping by to say hi to you and Russel. I hope you guys have a great day! Take care and I hope you had a wonderful weekend!

Jun 03, 2012 08:32 AM #9
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David Popoff
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I mis the fun, informative, antidote Russel Ray blog. maybe it' time to forgive and forget, I vote for his return and stir up the pot a wee bit more :-)
Jun 13, 2012 10:50 AM #10
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David Popoff
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OK so according to a reliable inside source ..... "Russel chose to leave ActiveRain on his own"

Best of luck to him and everyone else.

Jun 13, 2012 02:57 PM #11
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Jim Frimmer
HomeSmart Realty West - San Diego, CA
Realtor & CDPE, Mission Valley specialist

Hi, David. Yes, Russel took off to WordPress. He has a home inspector WordPress web site at http://russelray.com and a photography WordPress blog at http://russelrayphotos2.com.

Jun 14, 2012 03:53 AM #12
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Steve, Joel & Steve A. Chain
Chain Real Estate Investments & Mortgage, Steve & Joel Chain - Cottonwood, CA

Hey guys,

We just replaced a 400amp Zinsco. It was original from 1976 with, "no apparent problems." However we let the owner know there could be no warranty, on the addition or remodel work, without the panel change out. The owner wisely chose to upgrade. There was telltale signs of heat stress, on the breakers, that weren't noticable until the panel was removed.

SC

Jun 20, 2012 06:00 PM #13
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Jim, thanks for giving Russel a "voice" again here on AR. Good info on these panels.

Jul 21, 2012 01:14 AM #15
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Hello, thanks for the information on your post! Please, join our group on LinkedIn, ‘REO Institute’. We share Real Estate information regarding market trends, Short Sales, BPOs, REOs, OREs, BOVs, ideas, Education/Training, and Commercial Education. We value you your comments, ideas, and opinions about the Real Estate Industry. Thanks, James

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Jul 23, 2012 09:46 AM #16
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Carl Winters
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Jim: Stopped by to see if you had a current blog here on AR. 

Hope you and Russel are having a great summer.

Aug 08, 2012 05:17 PM #17
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Hey Jim, miss seeing you and Russel around AR.  Hope all is well in your world!

Aug 29, 2012 05:20 PM #18
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Jim  I stopped by to inquire about Russel - got my answer.  I'm settling on a condo where the Federal Pacific panel.  Is Russel planning to return

Sep 16, 2012 04:29 PM #19
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Hi Jim and Russell!  And Zoey the Cool Cat!

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