Cracking Under The Pressure

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Cracking under the pressure.  You hear that story all the time.

We all have our cracking point.  No matter the context, and no matter how strong we are, there is always a breaking point.  And we feel badly!

This house demonstrates an architectural, or other design, flaw. 

This photo looks at half of the rear roof.  Look carefully.  Virtually all of the rain water (that's a LOT of water) for that half is directed to one little gutter and one downspout.

See it now?

That gutter is about 5' long! 

And it is the narrower 5" gutter and smaller downspout.

You can see staining on the deck under that small gutter, so it has overflowed regularly under heavy rains.  Necessarily!

But even a larger gutter and downspout would not help the other problem created.

All of that water has to discharge.

This house is 9 years old, so nothing has ever been done about this problem.

And it is obvious someone knew about this problem.

It drains right beside a basement door stairwell!

And has for all these years.

That's a lot of water! 
That's a lot of weight!
That's a lot of pressure!

Seems to me things are leaking!  The penetrations through the wall are leaking.  And you can't see them, but there are two cracks in that wall.

This is the worst one.

The homeowners actually put caulking into the crack to "fix" it.

It is directly under that downspout discharge point.

This is actively leaking, with stains on the floor and muck in the stairwell drain.

The solution?

Since they demanded one small gutter and downspout to handle so much roof water, at least they should have designed the larger ones for the load.

And, from construction, had they buried that downspout discharge to drain to the left of the photo at the top, there is open grass there and it would have been a great feeder for the grass, or a garden or tree there.

That's a lot of forethought however.

The construction supervisor should have caught this.
The roofer/gutter installer should have caught this.
The landscaping company should have caught this.

AND THEY SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT YEARS AGO!

Now there's a different problem to deal with.

My recommendation:  don't discount gutters and downspouts from any home inspection.  Water is THE killer of houses, inside and out.  If not properly controlled and directed water will eventually do what it does best!

 

 

 

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Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


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Rainmaker
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Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
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Great explanation of the need for getting the water away from the building Jay. You are right, this should have been caught long ago.

July 16, 2012 07:14 AM
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia
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Tom - from the very first drawing of the plans!  But there was so much opportunity since then to correct this!

July 16, 2012 08:24 AM
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Debbie Reynolds
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Jay, Water will have its way so you better prepare for it to have its best solution for exit that will not damage or create other problems. Good eye.

July 16, 2012 05:39 PM
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Greg Miller
Warsaw Ind. Home Loans - Conventional,FHA,USDA,VA
Ruoff Home Mortgage

Excellent post & explaination Jay. Your visuals seem like this should have been a easily caught flaw.

July 16, 2012 05:44 PM
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Michael Thornton
Home Inspector - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.0297
Complete Home Inspections, Inc.

Good evening, Jay. It is amazing what I see builders do to take the cheapo way out. Ran into something similar today. Sadly, in my area, 4" gutters meet "Codes"...

July 16, 2012 06:06 PM
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Jan Green
RE/MAX Excalibur Scottsdale REALTOR®, GREEN®
Scottsdale, Phoenix, Cave Creek, Carefree, Fountain Hills

It's amazing that no one had the foresight to catch this.  Eagle eyes at it again.  Great job!

July 16, 2012 06:30 PM
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Reuben Saltzman
Minneapolis Home Inspections
Structure Tech Home Inspections

That's some terrible water management.  Tough to tell from the first photo, but that water doesn't all get directed in to the wall before getting to the lower gutter, does it?

July 16, 2012 06:40 PM
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Jay Markanich
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Debbie - I saw the rear roof problem before I saw the crack in the wall!

Greg - there was all kinds of opportunity to catch this prior to my visit!

Michael - that is a little gutter!  Good luck with it!

Thanks Jan.  But I am always seeing roof problems where too much water is directed to one small area.  It's a design problem, and people need to think ahead.

Reuben - there is a downspout on that upper corner, plus all that roof water there too.  It's bad management all around.

July 16, 2012 06:46 PM
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Julie Bentley
Saint Johns, FL REALTOR
Watson Realty Corp, Jacksonville, FL

Thanks for an informative post, Jay. Another example of severe consequences to what was an avoidable situation. Much to my surprise when I moved to the Jacksonville area a couple of years ago, gutters are neither required by code nor regularly installed in new construction here. While we don't have basements to worry about, the rainfall we have here can be intense and I can't tell you how many mulched beds I've seen washed away after a heavy rain.

July 16, 2012 07:26 PM
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Lisa Von Domek
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Lisa Von Domek & Associates LLC, Real Estate Broker/Associate with Real Living Real Estate Group www.LisaVon.com

Hello Jay,

Your one sentence says it all "that's a lot of forethought however"....

July 16, 2012 08:19 PM
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Joyce Kelley
Buyers Agent 800-309-3414 Pace and Gulf Breeze,Fl.
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services Inc

There are so many solutions that are shared here and I am amazed that this continues. My drains go to a rain barrel and then slowly water the yard.

July 16, 2012 08:44 PM
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William Johnson
San Diego Real Estate Voice, GRI CRS e-Pro CDPE
RE/MAX Associates
Hi Jay, My experience over the years in real estate is that water is key destroyer of property. I can't think of one single issue that does more damage to interiors and exteriors than failed water magaegment. And it is also my opinion that most builders take too many shortcuts in this regard and use products that are or can be easily be ruined with leaks and other improper installations.
July 16, 2012 09:39 PM
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Myrl Jeffcoat
Greater Sacramento Real Estate Agent
GreatWest Realty

Jay - This is an excellent post and I'm glad ActiveRain featured it.  Water can cause substantial damage to property.  It is always good to divert it away, especially from foundations, when you can!

July 16, 2012 10:56 PM
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James Dray
AR., MO., or OK. I can find the home for you.
Wise Custom Realty

Morning Mr. Jay congratulations on the feature they just don't get boring do they?  The home looks like a great property but as you noted the problem should have been caught a long time ago

July 17, 2012 02:52 AM
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Julie - I have heard there are areas without gutters, which is okay I guess if you are on a slab and it splatters away from the house.  But washing away flower beds isn't fun!

Lisa - my little bit of sarcasm thrown in.  I can be a bit dry.

Joyce - and the yard appreciates it!  As would trees nearby!

William - short cuts can happen and do.  I think this is a case of no think, my opinion.

July 17, 2012 04:01 AM
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Jay Markanich
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Thanks Myrl.  Water has to be controlled by us because IT is controlled by physics!  It can't help itself!

James - no, they don't get old.  This is a beautiful house.  The engineer is going out today to look at that wall and a roofer and electrician tomorrow.

July 17, 2012 04:02 AM
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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

You know what they say, crack kills. And so does water.

 

July 18, 2012 04:20 PM
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Jay Markanich
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

They had an engineer by yesterday, Jim, and his conclusions were the same as mine.  He, however, has juice!

July 18, 2012 05:30 PM
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Tom Bailey
Crystal Coast Realty & Home Services, LLC

Jay, Where was the inspector when the home was built? If it had been you this would not have happened.

July 19, 2012 01:54 PM
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Jay Markanich
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There were many inspectors Tom.  Thanks, but you know the builder will tell people they don't need an inspection on new construction!

July 19, 2012 07:19 PM
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