Leaking shower pan

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Home Inspector with Comprehensive Building Inspections & Consultants

Well, the shower pan is coming along. It has been replumbed and releaded. The plumber did a beatiful job, but I was disappointed that he didn't preslope the base.

I now has the correct drain and it is about 5" lower.

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Now here it is getting mudded. Since we are installing white marble, white sand and white portland was used to make the mix.

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Here is Chris, Adjusting the height of the drain.

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And here is some tile going down. With white thinset, of course.

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Rainer
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Steven Turetsky
Comprehensive Building Inspections & Consultants - Staten Island, NY
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Hi Brad,

I decided to start taking in progress pictures of different jobs I get involved with. I run into so many different things.

February 01, 2008 08:55 PM #2
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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
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Steven, so what was their explanation for not installing a slope under the pan?  Do you see a lot of lead pans?  Mostly that heavy plastic stuff out here.
February 01, 2008 11:20 PM #3
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Steven Turetsky
Comprehensive Building Inspections & Consultants - Staten Island, NY
Home, Building, EIFS Inspector

I never spoke to the plumber. My company was hired to replace the pan and tile. When I opened it up and discover it was not a leaking pan, but a poorly designed one, and that there were some plumbing issues, the building management got involved. It turns out that the building... not the homeowner is responsible for any plumbing in the walls/concrete. They didn't want to pay the price I quoted them for the additional plumbing and ended up using their regular house plumber. They felt since they use him all the time, they would get a better price. Thats ok.

Silly thing is, they also insisted upon installing the pan too. I made sure my client understood that if it leaks, I am not responsible for anything, including the replacement of my work.

Why didn't he pre-slope it? I'm sure because he hasn't got a clue. Actually, I rarely see pre-sloped pans. Most folks don't know about the technique. I also think it's because plumbers do the pan, tile men do the presloping. They try to save the money on the extra step it would require by each trade to do it right. And like I said, most folks don't know about pre-sloping

In most hi rise buildings around here, the insist upon lead. Some also insist upon Laticrete in the kitchen/bathrooms too.

When I used to build stores in the malls, I had to seal every food court space that was above other spaces. I forget the name of the product, it came in a can and/or sausage tube and after troweling it on, it would set up to be a seamless rubber-like membrane. Laticrete also makes a product that is pretty good for walls and floors.

February 01, 2008 11:53 PM #4
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Carl Winters
Canyon Lake, TX
Hey Steven -[ Just think ] if they would have done it right the first time this could have been avoided. It is beyond me why people do the things they do; one thing, it does keep people in business fixing someone's mistakes. Great pictures and thanks for continuing to keep us updated.
February 04, 2008 09:56 AM #5
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Rick Harrington
Patch Independent Home Inspections, LLC - Columbus, OH
Specialist--Infrared Residential

Nice post.  It's always great to see projects in progress as it teaches us so much.  

 

Pictures are worth a thousand words but not worth much to a search engine. :-)

February 04, 2008 04:03 PM #6
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Bruce Pinel
S & B Services LLC - North Kingstown, RI
Here is a copper one being installed in a large shower from a recent draw.copper shower base
February 08, 2008 07:47 PM #7
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Bruce Pinel
S & B Services LLC - North Kingstown, RI
February 29, 2008 07:33 AM #8
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Very educational, thank you.

November 04, 2008 03:12 PM #9
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Steven Turetsky
Comprehensive Building Inspections & Consultants - Staten Island, NY
Home, Building, EIFS Inspector

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

November 11, 2008 09:28 PM #10
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Carl Winters
Canyon Lake, TX

Steven - Where in the world have you been? Maybe you have been here right along and just haven't bumped into you. If you have forgotten I'm your Texas bud - The Hill Country Inspector Group. Stay in touch. Carl

November 11, 2008 09:58 PM #11
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Jason Darko
Zilliant Innovations - Tile*Stone*Grout:Clean, Seal, Repair - Alpharetta, GA

Steven,

Great Information- we do a lot of shower tile and grout repairs here in Georgia.  Enjoyed the Pictures.  Hope all is going well in NY!

Jason
Zilliant Innovations Inc. Tile*Stone*Grout

February 27, 2009 01:45 PM #12
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Steven Turetsky
Comprehensive Building Inspections & Consultants - Staten Island, NY
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Hi Jason,

Thanks for stopping by. I'm glad you liked the pictures.

Did you check out the other two threads, showing the "getting started, and the finish?"

Anyway, all is well in NY.

Send me a peach.

Steve

April 22, 2009 08:16 PM #13
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This post has discussed about leaking showers, it could be as simple as a loose connection as needing a new shower pan and trap. You have made this topic easy to read, interesting and easy to understand.

Fix Leaking Showers

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