Point And Shoot Cameras. The Wider The Better.

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When it comes to digital point a shoot cameras,
bigger is not necessarily better, but wider certainly is.

One of the first posts I wrote on ActiveRain was titled, "Sell Your Camera On eBay & Buy This One."

That post was written about the Kodak v705, which, along with the Kodak v570, would still be my recommendation for a point and shoot camera. Unfortunately, Kodak decided to stop making both the v705 and the v570 and they are getting harder and harder to find. So I was forced to find another camera I could feel confident recommending.

My search led me to a brand new camera on the market, the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX35.

Comparing the Panasonic Lumix FX35 to the Kodak v705, I found it's features to be comparable, the photo quality slightly better and its 25mm wide angle lens is the widest currently in production, though not as wide as the v705's 23mm wide angle lens. Still, the review left me wondering if people were being fooled into thinking they were getting a wide angle lens when they really weren't.

The Wide Angle Claim 

Point and shoot cameras with a 28mm wide angle lens, like the brand new Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ5, say they have a wide angle lens. And, compared to the standard 35mm lens, that's certainly true. But is it enough to capture a small room in the best possible way?

I wanted to see the difference in wide angle lenses for myself.

To do that, I purchased a Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ5 as well and borrowed Martin Rodriguez's Sony DSC-H9. (Martin's primary use for the DSC-H9 is not real estate photography, by the way.) The TZ5 has the very commonly 28mm lens that most point and shoot manufactures call wide angle, and the DSC-H9 has the standard 35mm lens. I compared them with the 23mm v705 and the 25mm FX35.

Here are the comparisons between the four different point and shoot lenses.

Sony DSC-HP 35mm Room Shot 35mm lens

Sony DSC-H9 35mm

Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ5 Room Shot 28mm lens

Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ5 28mm

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX35 Room Shot 25mm lens

Panasonic Lumix DMC FX35 25mm

Kodak v705 Room Shot 23mm Lens

Kodak v705 23mm

Smaller rooms will show an even greater difference.

I used my family room as the subject matter, and it is fairly large, so you can imagine what a difference the FX35 or the v705 would make in photographing a very small room. In my opinion, neither the Sony DSC-H9 or Lumix DMC-TZ5 did this room justice. Only the 25mm lens on the Lumix FX35 came close enough to the 23mm lens on the Kodak v705 to get my vote of confidence. A wider wide angle lens makes a huge difference in your multimedia presentations as well. Here is a Real Estate Show illustrating how the different wide angle photos look when put in motion. Click on "more photos" to see them in static form.

My Conclusion?

A digital point & shoot camera with a 28mm lens can certainly claim wide angle status, but for real estate purposes, 28mm simply isn't enough.

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Rainer
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Rob Baldwin
US ECO-GREEN REAL ESTATE INC. - Santa Clarita, CA
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Hey Jeff, thanks for the consumer reports update. Everyone should know that you really do get it all at ActiveRain.

By the way. Nice family room!

May 07, 2008 11:35 PM #61
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Pat Walmsley
Lake Keowee Real Estate - Seneca, SC
REALTOR, 30 Years Experience
I just ordered  the Lumix FX35 today and paid extra to have it for tomorrow.  Also signed up to Real Estate Shows and I can hardly wait to get started with hopefully better  and better pictures. Good reading.
May 08, 2008 11:07 PM #62
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RealSatisfied - Santa Clarita, CA

Diane... :)

Rob... thank you.

Pat... you'll love it. Don't hesitate to email me with questions. :)

May 09, 2008 01:38 AM #63
Rainmaker
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Palm Coast Homes
100 Plus Realty LLC - Palm Coast, FL
Palm Coast/Flagler County Real Estate, The Ross/Co

hmmmm...my b-day is coming up soon...i would love one ;-)

May 13, 2008 11:16 AM #64
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Jeff Turner
RealSatisfied - Santa Clarita, CA

Krista... would you like me to talk to your husband for you?

May 13, 2008 05:54 PM #65
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Erica Wallace
Prudential Page Realty - Medway, MA

the V705 is the best camera ever. I bought one a few years back and loved it especially for real estate shots. Sadly, I slipped on some ice in march and broke the lcd screen which renders the camera almost useless. I am on the hunt for another one, but appreciate Jeff posting an alternative because I have had a very hard time finding another one. Thank you!!

May 19, 2008 09:48 PM #66
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Gail Robinson
William Raveis Real Estate - Southport, CT
CRS, GRI, e-PRO Fairfield County, CT

Jeff, I bought the Kodak v570 based on your recommendation and now even use to create HDR images (I have to use the self-timer as the camera doesn't have a shutter release cable connection).  I don't know what I would do without that camera.  Thank you for continuing to give us great advice!

May 21, 2008 08:35 AM #67
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Jeff, I have a v570 that I've been using for real estate for about a year.  Its starting to take fuzzy pictures unless you have it on the ultra wide setting.  Anyone else have this problem?  If so, any fixes?

Jun 22, 2008 09:46 PM #68
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Stephanie Edwards-Musa
thredUP.com - The Woodlands, TX
knitwit at thred UP

Jeff, you still like the FX35?  Need a new one, this is what I'm finding.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Digital_Point_Shoot/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A1622411

Seems to be a newer model (says new on it.:)  and if I am understanding what the post and all of the comments say, this is 17.8mm?  Even some of these that say wide angle are only 30mm.  But the lower the better?

So confused, but this post helped quite a bit. Thanks.

Oh, Dan above, my v705 is getting blurry AGAIN.  I had the complete main board changed out on it less than 6 months ago and its dying again.  If it is still under warranty, they'll fix it for free with just the cost of shipping.

Jul 02, 2008 08:22 PM #69
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Debbie Small
Long & Foster Realtors - Martinsburg, WV
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Good to hear as things change so quickly that the Kodak V705 is still highly recommended. I got one over a year ago after reading AR recommendations and really like it for business. The flash isn't much account so I try to plan around well lit days for the virtural tours. Oh my, hope to avoid the fuzzy problem. 

Jul 04, 2008 07:47 PM #70
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Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

Hi Jeff, Yesterday I bought a Kodak v570. I do like this camera. Thanks for your help.

Jul 21, 2008 10:53 AM #71
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Trudy Pape, RE/MAX Preferred, San Antonio, TX

Hi Jeff, have you or anyone heard of the RealPix camera specifically designed for real estate professional?  It has a fixed focus 22mm f2,0 lens. Its priced at $299 and was to be available July 15, 2007.  I saw it on LetsGoDigital.  Any comments?

Jul 22, 2008 04:37 PM #72
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Ooops...forgot my email.

Jul 22, 2008 04:39 PM #73
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Doris Freeman
RE/MAX REALTY SOURCE - Jackson, TN
Broker/Agent, Realtor, Madison-Gibson-Crockett

Thanks for the great information, I've been looking at some larger cameras, instead of point and shoot since I can't find one that does a good job.

Have A Great Day

Jul 22, 2008 10:20 PM #74
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Sam Miller
RE/MAX Stars Realty - Howard, OH
Knox County Ohio

Jeff - Thanks for such a detailed comparison and your photos certainly show the difference between the lens views.  Very nicely done!

Jul 25, 2008 05:26 PM #75
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John Evarts
Classic Property Management of Santa Clarita - Santa Clarita, CA

Jeff - you are the freakin' man. I have been trying to find an alternative to our V705 after it was swiped and all I can find are used ones for $400. Then I thought " I am going to go to Jeff's activerain page and look at all of his posts tagged with camera". Voila. I don't need the whole internet. Just Jeff Turner's stuff. Who needs anything else? Thanks, again. 

May 13, 2009 01:37 PM #76
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Sam Miller
RE/MAX Stars Realty - Howard, OH
Knox County Ohio

Recently learned that the old Kodak v570 and v705 cameras can be serviced so if you have a failure don't toss them away.  

Apr 25, 2010 10:18 AM #77
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Nicky Dou
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I am going crazy trying to get the RIGHT camera. I used to have a Lumix DMC-TZ4 (not even really that expensive) till it dropped off my counter and broke. Then I decided I would "upgrade"... Well so far I have gone through the small Canon 90 (hated it), Canon Rebel DSLR - it was "ok" but I didn't like how large it was nor that it had video, now I am trying out the Olympus PEN. I feel I need HELP! I would prefer a smaller camera so that I dont have to carry a large case around with me everywhere but I am sort of starting to think I should just get 2. SO - ideas, suggestions? Whats the best LUMIX out there for real estate b/c so far - my cheap LUMIX was my favorite... and the cheapest.

Jun 18, 2010 08:04 AM #78
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Phil Leng
Keller Williams Eastside Market Center - Kirkland, WA
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Hi Jeff,

Great post.

I just subscribed.

Thanks

Phil

Dec 25, 2010 04:52 AM #79
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Irma Yapor
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Yapor Realty

I wanted to share with everyone that I have been using a great camera for over a year and it has been wonderful for real estate: Samsung NV24HD. It shoots still shots and video in high definition and it is a 24 mm wide lens. Great camera for under $150. Happy shooting! :))

 

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