"Stirring the pot"

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stirring the potIs "stirring the pot" a bad thing? Is stirring the pot on your ActiveRain blog a bad thing?

Someone commented on Rich Jacobson's recent post "In my last post, I tried VERY hard to say what I needed to say, without stirring the pot." 

hmmmm as if "stirring the pot" is a bad thing.  Rich's post is referring to one of the ActiveRain Community Guidelines.

Phrase Finder is a web site (UK so some phrases sounds a bit different) where you can find phrases like "stirring the pot"

"sitting on the fence"

"pig in a poke"...

"letting the cat out of the bag"

You can ask about a phrase on the Phrase Finder forum or look up what a phrase means... I looked up "stirring the pot" after seeing that comment on Rich's post

"Posted by Bob on January 02, 2001

In Reply to: Stir the pot posted by Patty on January 02, 2001

: What does the phrase "to stir the pot" generally mean? And does it mean to be in some way deliberately provocative or irritating? Thanks. - Patty

Deliberately provocative, yes, but not necessarily maliciously. Picture a pot of soup. A lot of ingredients have settled to the bottom, out of sight, until stirred. Metaphorically, a lot of issues/resentments/obligations can drop out of sight when nobody mentions them. One can "stir the pot" to bring issues to the surface, sometimes with malice, but sometimes merely to create awareness and effect change."

The comment on Rich J's recent post  "Free Speech has a Cost"- The ActiveRain Community Guidelines Re-Visited   said "say what I needed to say, without stirring the pot.hmmmm as if "stirring the pot" is a bad thing.  Rich's post is refers to  the ActiveRain Community Guideline (A good thing, a necessary thing):

"We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech which contains slurs or the malicious use of stereotypes intended to attack or demean a particular gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, or nationality."

I believe Rich revisted that guideline now since comments left anonymously on an ActiveRain members post were found to be criminal....

Do you ever stir the pot on your blog? Can you recognize "stirring the pot" on ActiveRain and in the blogosphere when you see it?

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Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
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Mitchell all I can say is I am glad you reassesed blogging.

I found the whole conversation on one of Scott Daniels posts in August 2006.  I did not realize I commented about a zillion times... being overbearing and obnoxious.... "NO NO Mitchell... do not become Property Grunt II!"  

NYC is a whole different kettle of fish (I think in little trite phrases... maybe it needs stirring.  I thought people knew who P. Grunt is....

I won't ask Patty or Scott for examples of what she / he  thinks stirring the pot is since to them it is obviously a negative, not nice....   "have not seen anything good or positive from it."

Doing it to get a reaction or points? .... but of course they are doing it to get a reaction.... what's the point of the meat and vegtables laying on the bottom of the pot

August 14, 2008 12:50 PM
Rainmaker
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Michelle DeRepentigny
Broker Athens, GA
Success Realty

I am more llikely to "stir the pot" with an industry/peer targeted post on Active Rain, than I am on my "other blog".  I tend to keep my other blog a little boring and bland so everyone can enjoy taking a sip, with my opinions and/or bias only showing through occasionally.

Over at Bloodhound, I am encouraged to stir the pot,  - I guess that is where I let my controversial and hopefully thought provoking side out.

August 14, 2008 12:51 PM
Rainmaker
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Tim Maitski
The Agent Who Uses "Watermelon Tough" Sign Posts
Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage

I like cooking and enjoy stirring the pot as much as possible. 

August 14, 2008 12:51 PM
Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
HER Realtors

Michelle  My other blog is much more boring... but I think I still try to be provocative...  and my content for consumers on ActiveRain is always going to be very, very boring I am sure... but I think lots of real esate bloggers are so afraid that they might seem "not nice"  or "not positive" that they are boring....

you kids at BHB stir the pot.

Tim It is important to stir the pot....  if you can enjoy it, so much the better.

Good example of someone who is not so into being nice and looking positive that can stir the pot when she is blogging to consumers?  Chris Griffith.

August 14, 2008 01:08 PM
Rainmaker
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Mitchell J Hall
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan, NYC
The Corcoran Group

Maureen I just found Scott's post and our string of comments. You were right not obxoxious. I was naive. What was I thinking?  

My last comments on that post sums up why I never have written about agents or buyers or sellers.

Maureen, I promise to let you know when I have a bad agent blog. So far the ones I've worked with this year have been excellent. I have a buyer story that is so juicy rather than writing a blog I'm waiting to see my buyer tell her story on Oprah.

I've decided it's better to never kiss and tell. lol I don't know who Property Grunt is maybe everyone else in NY knows.

August 14, 2008 01:32 PM
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Melina Tomson
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Tomson Burnham, llc Licensed in the State of Oregon

Maureen,

I think part of stirring the pot is being passionate about something.  As passionate as I am about something there is bound to be someone who is just as passionate in the other direction.  Since a blog should be a reflection of who you are it seems inevitable that the pot will get stirred.

I guess it depends why you blog. If you blog for business, which I do, I have found by being my normal opinonated self brings me clients that think like I do.  They want to work with me and are easy to work with since they kind of understand how I am already. 

It's funny to me that you think your other blog is boring.  Your posts on AR are clearly passionate about an issue.  It's hard to believe that your opinion doesn't shine through more on your other blog.

August 14, 2008 02:46 PM
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Russ Ravary
Metro Detroit homes - Michigan Real estate & Mortgage info
Keller Williams Commerce

Thank goodness we have guidelines and they stick to them.

August 14, 2008 02:52 PM
Rainmaker
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Randy Prothero
Hawaii REALTOR, (808) 384-5645
Island Style Realty Inc.

If I mention professional behavior or ethics for some that is stirring the pot.  I guess that makes me guilty.

August 14, 2008 03:01 PM
Rainmaker
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Randy Prothero
Hawaii REALTOR, (808) 384-5645
Island Style Realty Inc.

I regularly write about professional behavior and ethical standards.  For some that is stirring the pot.

August 14, 2008 03:03 PM
Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
HER Realtors

Randy I thought of you when I wrote this, I am glad you mention that for some your posting is stirring the pot.

Melina there is just so very little conversation on my other blog... it doesn't feel the same.  I can yank chains here... "induce or elicit a reaction or emotion" as Frank or Jodi said above.

Russ thank goodness...

Thanks for the comment all.  Mitchell just 2 years ago but a long time ago in blog years.

August 14, 2008 03:40 PM
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Deb "Alayne" Brooks
940-500-4010 Wichita Falls Real Estate
Alayne Brooks, Re/Max Elite Group, Wichita Falls Texas

Maureen, you make a great point in distinguishing "stirring the pot" with a broken guideline with much stronger implications of "damaging" speech. If what is said damages the other person's reputation or bashes them racially then of course it should be off limits!

None of us should have any qualms with "stirring the pot, kicking up dust or simply giving an unpopular opinion." It's a big world and thank heavens we don't all agree. Man, that would be boring. I enjoy learning something new every day!

Thank you for an excellent post and point...

Later in the rain~Deb

August 14, 2008 03:41 PM
Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
HER Realtors

Thanks Deb... on a blog earlier this year when I was stirring the pot about "Free Speech"  and this same AR Guideline another member told me to:

"Just let it go.  Most Activerain members think just as I do.  Someone wrote a blog about how many readers a blog might get.  None of the figures were really high.  It's a large group and no one can keep up with all blogs."

I was amazed that she even knew how most members on ActiveRain think.... and could speak for them.

The witch picture here has a deeper meaning as dorky as it looks... not just because she is stirring a pot.   I was chatting about it on Twitter yesterday with a few people locally.  A PR person and someone with one of the TV stations.  Just ordinary folk... not people in the RE business.

August 14, 2008 04:15 PM
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Jason Crouch
Broker - Austin Texas Real Estate (512-796-7653)
Austin Texas Homes, LLC

I can recognize it when I see it, and I try not to stir it up myself very often.  No real need, in my opinon.

August 14, 2008 04:42 PM
Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
HER Realtors

It works for me... it keeps the conversations on a whole 'nother level...

August 14, 2008 04:58 PM
Rainmaker
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Norma J. Elkins
Realtor - Elkins Home Selling Team
Elite Realty Group

Thanks for the post - and certainly something to think about---

August 17, 2008 04:21 PM
Rainmaker
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Dawn Maloney
330-990-4236 Hudson Stow Cuyahoga Falls Silver Lak
RE/MAX Haven - Northeast Ohio Real Estate Specialist

This post is making me want soup...

August 17, 2008 07:09 PM
Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
HER Realtors

It's too hot for soup Dawn ... next month... I'd share a soup recipe but I understand there is a change or not a change, they are saying don't take points if you just share a recipe... 

August 18, 2008 05:59 PM
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Douglas Garbe
Real Living Real Estate Solutions
Real Living Real Estate Solutions

Maureen - And what is this?  Certainly not a Vanilla-blog.  This is exactly what good blogging is all about:  meeting of the minds, exchange of opinions, discussions about solutions.

Whereas some people are offended that I create controversy -fake or not- to make one of my blogs explode, others appreciate a bit of 'flavor' in an oddball writing here or there.

As usual, you are able to do what I just dream of achieving:  Create controversy and good comments through a well written, although somewhat open-ended, topic.

Whether they like it or not, you are one of the clearest voices on Active Rain.

Sharp enough to cut CLEAR through the BS.

Awesome.

August 18, 2008 09:13 PM
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Tracy Santrock
Raleigh - Cary Realtor
Fonville Morisey/Santrock Realty Group, Inc.

Maureen,

Oh it's so you! You love to stir the pot. 

 

I also know that you have a pet peeve about comments that don't have meaning. Keep it up and we'll keep reading!

 

September 27, 2008 10:35 PM
Rainmaker
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Maureen McCabe
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
HER Realtors

Lovely pot stirrer there Tracy!

September 28, 2008 05:34 AM
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