So... You Want To "Defend" Marriage... Do You ?

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This coming November... the State of California voters are going to be asked to "define" what a marriage is.  The idea behind it is that a marriage must be between a man and a woman, and not between two persons of the same sex.  Many conservatives claim that to do otherwise... "dilutes" or somehow "lessens" or "erodes" the value of the heretofore heterosexual-only marriage.

Does it really ?  Hmmm.  What could be some of the "other" possibilities that dilute, lessen or erode the institution of the traditional marriage ?  And... what could be done to "combat" those things ?

How about a ban on Adultery ?  Now... Adultery has been "forbidden" by the bible for centuries and centuries.  But... it happens every day.  Affairs are often seen as a good "cure" for boredom in a marriage.  So... why not indulge ?  It's only an affair ?  It doesn't mean anything !  At least, that is the typical answer someone caught in an affair by their husband or wife often comes up with. 

How about having anyone who is guilty of adultery be "displayed" in the old-timey "stocks" in the local public square from 9:00am until 5:00pm for one solid Monday thru Friday time period ?  I wonder if that would help stop the "eroding" of the value of marriages ?

What would happen if all of the energy that is currently being put into the "definition of marriage" movement was channeled into prohibiting adultery ?  How much of an effect would that have... on "shoring up" the value of a traditional marriage ? 

How about doing away with divorce ?  Divorce has also been "forbidden" by various religions over the centuries.  Over fifty percent of all marriages end in divorce.  So... why don't we do away with divorces ?  Or... make it a part of marriage law that once a divorce is applied for... two solid years of marriage counseling is required.  Or... perhaps mandate a five-year waiting period before the divorce can be granted.  The only exception would be for spousal or child abuse... or both.

What would happen if all of the energy that is currently being put into the "definition of marriage" movement was channeled into prohibiting divorce ?  How much of an effect would that have... on "shoring up" the value of a traditional marriage ?

Perhaps if those entering marriage took their vows more seriously... and concentrated on their own families... and centered their energies on their own "family values"... instead of getting "all in a wad" over someone else's marriage... this entity called "marriage" would no longer need to be defended or defined.

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Carol:  Marriage was not even in existence further back in history.  Back in time... before the Minoans, before the Greeks, society was Matrifocal, Matricentric and Matrilineal.  I am talking 3,000 and 4,000 BC... that time period.  The "gods" were Goddesses.  The woman was the head of the "family."  Land and possessions were passed from mother to daughter.  The man with the "highest standing" in the women-centered families... was the mother's brother.

Women ruled society.  There were no wars, things were peaceful.  Then came the invasions.  Male armies came from the north and the east... barbarians.  As they pillaged and plundered, and gradually took over parts of society, they, of course, would have no part of the "women-centered" society that they found existing and flourishing in the area that was the "cradle of civilization."  And, of course, with these invading armies of men... their Male Gods came with them.  The Goddesses were plundered, their statues and temples were plundered, and the invaders male gods were installed as the "rulers" of the heavens.

That... in history... is the time when everything started "going downhill."  Men "took" the women, and of course, made them "their own."  They were little better than possessions. Actually... often women were worse off then the animals also owned by the men.

And, since science had not yet progressed to the point where paternity could be proved, marriage-like societal institutions were forced on women.  Mainly, so the men could PROVE who their own heirs were.  Without tying the women to the men in enforced marriages, it would not be possible to prove whose child belonged to whom... and thus... whose "heir..." and of course, whose MALE heir would inherit both the possessions and the power when the ruling "Father" died.

It is all about control.         (8-31-2009)

August 31, 2009 03:05 PM
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Karen,  You are right. The first time I responded to the masses on your post, I went over board on the history of the subjugation of women. From both the Irish and Euro points of view. But, my lap top is fussy and deleted my reply. I editited my second post. It is good to know some one else is reading the same books.

August 31, 2009 05:57 PM
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Great blog   but i have to agree Susie in #35,,,,Karen   just a thougth   not at you just  for the masses   I wonderful....are  2 guys or gals live together all the time after collage but nobody says a word  but as soon as they say married that is wrong,,,because they came out....or is it the idea of the sex with the same sex that bothers people....ok i am going to say it   what men and women of same sex do in their bedroom...so do opposite sex people do in their bedroom

November 04, 2009 06:41 PM
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Dana:  I honestly think the main problem with many folks who object to same-sex couples... is that they themselves are a tad more insecure about their OWN sexuality than they feel comfortable with. 

There IS no homosexual life-style... just as there IS no heterosexual life-style... just as there IS no left-handed person's lifestyle... or no blue-eyed person's lifestyle.

People live, they work, they play, they eat and sleep, and they love.  Who they love... as long as they are all consenting adults... should not matter to anyone else except the two people involved.  Just as where they live, where they work and what they do, what they eat, and how they sleep.  It only matters to them.

And... why does it matter WHERE they "do" it ?  I remember one really wonderful evening I spent in an apple orchard up in Northern Virginia... but, that's another post for another time... LOL.

November 04, 2009 08:05 PM
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UPDATE: Prop. 8 has been overturned and ruled unconstitutional - 8/4/2010.

"The fact that Prop. 8 passed as a voter initiative was irrelevant as fundamental rights may not be submitted to [a] vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections" - Judge Vaughn Walker.

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