McCain supporter charged in hoax incident - The bottom line is she lied

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(CNN) -- Bail was set at $50,000 Friday night for a GOP campaign worker who made up a story about being attacked by a man angered by a John McCain bumper sticker on her car.

CNN refused to run the story about 20 year old Ashley Todd, a volunteer for or a John McCain phone bank in Pittsburgh who told investigators a man approached her Wednesday night at an ATM in Pittsburgh's East End, put a blade to her neck and demanded money.

Todd originally told police a man "punched her in the back of the head, knocking her to the ground, and he continued to punch and kick her while threatening to teach her a lesson for being a McCain supporter."

November 4th can't come soon enough so that the country isn't having to waste attention on nutcases like Ashley Todd. Let's get the election done with so that Obama and his administration can get on with the enormous task of restoring America to its former self.

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Steve Shatsky
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I saw this on the news tonight... where do these people come from???

Oct 24, 2008 11:49 PM #1
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Tom Ash
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Hi Stewart:

   I am a Mccain supporter, so you may not be surprised when I say that I disagree with you.  I think the bottom line is that the girl is sick.  To disfigure yourself to support a candidate doesn't reflect on Mccain (anymore than it would on Obama): it reflects a poor soul who needs help. 

Oct 24, 2008 11:55 PM #2
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Karen Anne Stone
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Stewart:  What is so typically humorous about this... is that when this report came out originally... there of course were comments about how this type of behavior... from the person who beat her up... was just one more reason not to vote for Obama.  Now, it simply has turned into another of those things that make you go hmmmmm.

Oct 25, 2008 12:12 AM #3
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Karen Anne Stone
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Tom:  Perhaps it is true that is does not reflect on McCain... but what it does do... is just give one more example of how quickly the McCain camp likes to jump on anything that happens that could be used against Obama in a negative way.

Now... let's all see if anyone supporting McCain in the news media... who originally "ran" with this report... comes back and retracts their original comments.

Oct 25, 2008 12:15 AM #4
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Geneie McIntosh
Equity Utah Realty - Midway, UT

I AGREE WITH EVERYONES COMMENTS TOO! I HOPE THIS POOR GIRL GETS HELP! AND I HOPE THE MEDIA LEARNS A LESSON HERE TOO!

Oct 25, 2008 12:54 AM #5
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Mitchell J Hall
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FOX NEWS VP: "If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

Oct 25, 2008 06:20 AM #6
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Tom Ash
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Hi Karen:

   I think it's unfortunate that Mccain's "camp" would use the story as well.  However, I think both sides are equally culpable of doing what you decry.  Stories that Sarah Palin's daughter is actually the mother of Ms. Palin's son, Trig, and stories that Mccain doesn't even know how to use a computer (he's disabled from torture) are two examples that come to mind. 

   We should demand better of ourselves, and from our officials.  Using a person with a probable mental health issue as a tool to get elected is something we should not do: true in the case of this poor girl.  Using a person with a disability to keep somebody from getting elected is pretty low: attacks on Palin's son and Mccain as well are cases in point.   It happens on both sides.

  Lost in all mudslinging are the actual details of what the respective candidates would do if elected, and how they are qualified for the jobs. 

Oct 25, 2008 07:12 AM #7
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Jon Wnoroski
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I saw this on the news also and just have to shake my head.  There are some sick puppies out there and they do all kinds of strange stuff.  Perhaps the most embarrassing part about this incident is that the McCain campaign tried to exploit it to their advantage and it backfired on them; another example of evading the issues and propagating sensationalism.  Unfortunately for the McCain campaign they failed to check out the facts; where have we seen this before on their part.

Oct 25, 2008 07:21 AM #8
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Carol Swain
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Good Post.  I heard that girl made it up, and I was surprised.  So people just have a few screws lose.  I don't think it reflects badly on McCain.  She is just a nut.

Oct 25, 2008 07:57 AM #9
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
Windermere Real Estate - Palm Springs - Palm Springs, CA
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I agree with Jon about how the right-wing media was so quick to exploit this incident to cast a negative light on Obama without thoroughly checking the facts.

McCain appears to grasping at straws ..... first the factually incorrect "Joe the Plumber" story and now the hoax "B-girl" story. If McCain didn't bother to vet Palin thoroughly, we shouldn't be surprised when he and his campaign fails to double check the facts on stories they use.

There's a lot of egg on a number of people's faces.

Oct 25, 2008 11:15 AM #10
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
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Tom - "stories that Mccain doesn't even know how to use a computer (he's disabled from torture)..."

This statement is nonsense -  McCain doesn't use a computer because he never bothered to find out how - it had nothing to do with his war injuries.

Even quadriplegics can use computers .... they just are motivated enough to find a way.

Oct 25, 2008 11:22 AM #11
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Leslie Prest
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It's the crazies that worry me. I'm afraid that the closer we get to the election, and the more it looks like Obama will win, the more some unbalanced peole will think they have to do something drastic to change it.
Oct 25, 2008 11:34 AM #12
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Tom Ash
Agentspayingforward.com - Sacramento, CA

Hi Stewart:

   With all due respect, I choose to disagree with you.  While many people are able to do things in spite of their disabilities as you say (I have a family member with no arms I have played golf with), some people don't pursue other activities because there is a level of pain involved that they cannot overcome. 

 I have helped teach Wounded Warrior members to ski, and love the program: it's inspiring.  These men and women have served, suffered, and chose to pursue their respective activities in spite of their challenges.  Just as Mccain suffered his current disability as a result of his service, the Wounded Warriors did and do the same.  The Wounded Warriors choose to go forward, and to the level of their choosing - not mine or yours.

  For you to say that Mccain is not "motivated enough to find a way" is at the least insensitive.  At the worst, it's a load of xxxx

Oct 25, 2008 11:45 AM #13
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Palm Springs Realtor Stewart Penn
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Tom - McCain simply couldn't be bothered to learn how to use a computer. He said as much himself.

It was McCain who said he's computer illiterate - he never said he can't work a computer due to his injuries, so that's plain Republican Spin ... or as you put it, a load of xxxx!!!

I refer you to a previous Blog of mine: John McCain cannot use a PC or a MAC. Should he be President?

Oct 25, 2008 11:51 AM #14
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Tom Ash
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As per your request, I looked at Mccain's response: "I have to rely on my wife for all of the assistance I can get".  Given where I volunteer, the choice to ask for assistance is up to the participant: not me or the staff.  I choose to afford Senator Mccain the latitude based on my experience, you clearly do not afford him that latitude:  Your choice, and I will disagree with you with respect. 

Oct 25, 2008 11:59 AM #15
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Stewart Penn - BRE# 01339266
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FactCheck.org: (September 17, 2008)

Is McCain unable to use a computer because of war injuries?

He can type. But using a keyboard for long periods is uncomfortable for him. He says he's been an "illiterate" on a computer. But he says now he's learning to use the Internet.

Oct 25, 2008 01:16 PM #16
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Ruthmarie Hicks
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The right wing media just POUNCED on this.  What a dumb thing to do....Beyond the obvious race baiting - it also perpetuates the questions regarding the JUDGEMENT of McCain and his campaign.  Not unlike the selection of Sarah Palin, the embrace of "Joe the Plumber," and the comment that our "economy is sound."  One gaffe after another after another and another.......

Oct 25, 2008 02:14 PM #18
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Tom Ash
Agentspayingforward.com - Sacramento, CA

   Sorry Stewart, after reading factcheck.org and the article by ABC News' Jake Tupper:

He can type, he occasionally does type, but in general, the injuries he sustained as a POW - ones that make it impossible for him to raise his arms high enough to comb his hair - mean that small tasks make his shoulders ache, so he tries to avoid any repetitive exercise. 

 I choose to stand by what I said.  ""I have to rely on my wife for all of the assistance I can get"".  Given where I volunteer, the choice to ask for assistance is up to the participant: not me or the staff.""

 I think your thesis requires that Mccain endure the pain to learn to use the computer: it appears Mccain chooses not to. 

  

 

Oct 25, 2008 02:24 PM #19
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Dr. Stacey-Ann Baugh
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This story is really frightening.  I can't believe that people care so much that they would permanently disfigure themselves in order to advance their candidate.  The psychologist in me can't wait for this to be all over.

Oct 26, 2008 07:17 AM #20
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She must have a few screws loose.....I never believed this story from the beginning.
Oct 26, 2008 07:18 AM #21
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